Stone Paper?

[dparker6]

The other day my daughter said she needed a new notebook for college, while shopping at the local chain store with the big red bulls eye, she spotted one that the manufacture claimed was made from "stone paper". I wish I'd written down the brand, but didn't. I was wondering if anyone has heard of such a thing or had any experience with this stuff. (I did a forum search, but didn't see anything along this line. Forgive me if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)

[Aunt Jill]

The other day my daughter said she needed a new notebook for college, while shopping at the local chain store with the big red bulls eye, she spotted one that the manufacture claimed was made from "stone paper". I wish I'd written down the brand, but didn't. I was wondering if anyone has heard of such a thing or had any experience with this stuff. (I did a forum search, but didn't see anything along this line. Forgive me if this has already been discussed elsewhere.)

 

It's called FiberStone. Tree-free paper, they say. Intriguing.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Aunt Jill

[happyundertaker]

I recently noticed that Target has a brand of stone paper, also. I purchased a small notebook, and it did really well with some inks and not so well with others. The paper almost seems "stretchy" and resistant to tearing.

 

The tag on the back of my notebook says "roobee by mara-mi."

[chud]

I did a short review of it here:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/138498-stone-paper/

 

Not much to add since then...

[adsmith]

Waterproof and tearproof paper would be nice for some applications, but I don't really get the environmental side so much.

 

You can quickly grow more pulp wood (or bamboo or flax or cotton!) for making paper, but rendering CaCO3 is more-or-less a one-way process. (Though, I suppose a pile of CaCO3 paper is no better or worse than a pile of limestone dust.)

 

At least in north america, paper is not produced by hacking down rainforests. There are dedicated plantations of cheap pulp wood that are maintained and re-planted constantly.

[kwpalzang]

Very interesting... I never knew that it was even possible to make paper out of stone material...

[ZeissIkon]

Very interesting... I never knew that it was even possible to make paper out of stone material...

 

Well, technically, it isn't. That stuff isn't paper, it's plastic sheet with enough chalk in it to take ink.

 

Real paper (especially paper made from waste material, such as cotton or linen rag paper, bagasse paper, etc.) is much more renewable than plastic with stone dust in it, and virtually all pens and inks are designed around the characteristics of some form of cellulose as the writing substrate.

[adsmith]

I wonder what Noodler's Bulletproof ink would do on this?

[Feanor]

I wonder what Noodler's Bulletproof ink would do on this?

The review linked above shows that it's somewhat resistant to water, but not completely.

[jleeper]

 

Well, technically, it isn't. That stuff isn't paper, it's plastic sheet with enough chalk in it to take ink.

 

Real paper (especially paper made from waste material, such as cotton or linen rag paper, bagasse paper, etc.) is much more renewable than plastic with stone dust in it, and virtually all pens and inks are designed around the characteristics of some form of cellulose as the writing substrate.

 

I really wonder how a petrochemical (HPDE) + rock mix that isn't biodegradable is very environmentally friendly.

[SincerelySpicy]

Well, technically, it isn't. That stuff isn't paper, it's plastic sheet with enough chalk in it to take ink.

 

Real paper (especially paper made from waste material, such as cotton or linen rag paper, bagasse paper, etc.) is much more renewable than plastic with stone dust in it, and virtually all pens and inks are designed around the characteristics of some form of cellulose as the writing substrate.

 

I really wonder how a petrochemical (HPDE) + rock mix that isn't biodegradable is very environmentally friendly.

 

 

It's greenwash. If you like the paper for its working properties, go for it. But don't buy into the environmental claims.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwash

Edited March 28, 2010 by SJM1123

[oldstoat]

Well you could make a paper out of asbestos fibres........

[OTDoc]

I had some of this and did a post on it quite a while back. Can't find it anymore. It is very smooth to write on but takes forever to dry. It will decompose in sunlight and the materials may or may not be hard on FP nibs. It does not seem to be taking very well in terms of the market.

[professionaldilettante]

Very interesting... I never knew that it was even possible to make paper out of stone material...

 

Well, technically, it isn't. That stuff isn't paper, it's plastic sheet with enough chalk in it to take ink.

 

Real paper (especially paper made from waste material, such as cotton or linen rag paper, bagasse paper, etc.) is much more renewable than plastic with stone dust in it, and virtually all pens and inks are designed around the characteristics of some form of cellulose as the writing substrate.

EXACTLY... thus I don't know how they get eco-friendly out of disposing of plastic. At least paper is compostable. It's like saying electric cars make 0 emissions and are eco-friendly. That is a lie. Where does that electricity come from? Burning oil and coal makes pollution, building dams harms rivers, nuclear power is not risk free, and even solar power requires the creation of circuit boards other polluting processes. I KNOW. It's called feet. use them.

[Feanor]

 

Well, technically, it isn't. That stuff isn't paper, it's plastic sheet with enough chalk in it to take ink.

 

Real paper (especially paper made from waste material, such as cotton or linen rag paper, bagasse paper, etc.) is much more renewable than plastic with stone dust in it, and virtually all pens and inks are designed around the characteristics of some form of cellulose as the writing substrate.

 

I really wonder how a petrochemical (HPDE) + rock mix that isn't biodegradable is very environmentally friendly.

 

Their claim seems to be based on production and doesn't take into account disposal.

[jleeper]

 

I really wonder how a petrochemical (HPDE) + rock mix that isn't biodegradable is very environmentally friendly.

 

Their claim seems to be based on production and doesn't take into account disposal.

 

I'm not even sure it is based on all of production. I think they are start counting when they combine the HPDE and the rock. I don't see anything that makes me think they account for the manufacture of the HPDE.

[Feanor]

 

I really wonder how a petrochemical (HPDE) + rock mix that isn't biodegradable is very environmentally friendly.

 

Their claim seems to be based on production and doesn't take into account disposal.

 

I'm not even sure it is based on all of production. I think they are start counting when they combine the HPDE and the rock. I don't see anything that makes me think they account for the manufacture of the HPDE.

 

Probably true. I didn't notice anything that so much as hinted at plastic or similar on the site.

[bluemagister]

I just picked this up at Target and am happy about the heft and smoothness of the "paper". It takes ballpoint and gel ink VERY well, with just the top layer of gel smearing under pressure, but remaining legible. I've tried several FP inks on this and they look very good!

 

It might be eco-friendly, but I at least hope it contributes CO2 to the atmosphere. I'll be buying more of these.

[lovemy51]

i dunno if this is the same thing as the stone paper Target is selling, but i would stay away from Target's. it feathers like nothing i've ever seen before! an extra fine line turned into a sixtuple broad!!!!

[dcwaites]

I wonder what Noodler's Bulletproof ink would do on this?

 

It wouldn't. Noodler's bulletproof inks are designed to react chemically with cellulose to bind to it. The stone paper has no cellulose, so, no binding.