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  On 4/28/2010 at 9:07 PM, eric47 said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:05 PM, ethernautrix said:
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  On 4/28/2010 at 6:05 PM, ethernautrix said:

I don't know why my inner child is a 14-year-old boy.

What makes you think that he's alone in there?

 

That's what the voices tell me.

 

Oh, wait....

 

Except for the mime, right?

 

and a mime is a terrible thing to waste

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My heresy: Just say No to Pelikan.

 

My early to mid-70s school grade Pelikans ruined more shirts than I can recall. The failures were spectacular too, unlike the Osmorids, which destroyed shirts regularly but without the fireworks. I have every reason to believe that recent production Pelikans are just fine, but my memory is long.

 

The Sheaffer Targas I bought in '76 and '77 are still daily writers. The Pelikans of the era I owned are not missed at all.

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  On 4/28/2010 at 9:07 PM, eric47 said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:05 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:02 PM, Lloyd said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 6:05 PM, ethernautrix said:

I don't know why my inner child is a 14-year-old boy.

What makes you think that he's alone in there?

 

That's what the voices tell me.

 

Oh, wait....

 

Except for the mime, right?

 

 

Who told you about the mime?

 

 

 

Shouts off-stage. WHO LET THE MIME OUT?

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  On 4/29/2010 at 2:25 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 9:07 PM, eric47 said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:05 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:02 PM, Lloyd said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 6:05 PM, ethernautrix said:

I don't know why my inner child is a 14-year-old boy.

What makes you think that he's alone in there?

 

That's what the voices tell me.

 

Oh, wait....

 

Except for the mime, right?

 

 

Who told you about the mime?

 

 

 

Shouts off-stage. WHO LET THE MIME OUT?

 

My Mime kept me awake all night so I got out a blank CD and played it with the volume cranked up all the way the next night and kept him up.

 

 

 

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  On 4/29/2010 at 2:25 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 9:07 PM, eric47 said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:05 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:02 PM, Lloyd said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 6:05 PM, ethernautrix said:

I don't know why my inner child is a 14-year-old boy.

What makes you think that he's alone in there?

 

That's what the voices tell me.

 

Oh, wait....

 

Except for the mime, right?

 

Who told you about the mime?

 

Shouts off-stage. WHO LET THE MIME OUT?

 

The mime did...oh wait, it couldn't have been the mime who told me.

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Anyone becomes mannered if you think too much about what other people think. (Kim Gordon)

 

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  On 4/29/2010 at 2:52 PM, jar said:
  On 4/29/2010 at 2:25 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 9:07 PM, eric47 said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:05 PM, ethernautrix said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 7:02 PM, Lloyd said:
  On 4/28/2010 at 6:05 PM, ethernautrix said:

I don't know why my inner child is a 14-year-old boy.

What makes you think that he's alone in there?

 

That's what the voices tell me.

 

Oh, wait....

 

Except for the mime, right?

 

 

Who told you about the mime?

 

 

 

Shouts off-stage. WHO LET THE MIME OUT?

 

My Mime kept me awake all night so I got out a blank CD and played it with the volume cranked up all the way the next night and kept him up.

Win.

 

:roflmho:

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"...Madness takes its toll."

 

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Ok - Here's one that I haven't seen mentioned here (yet):

 

I actually enjoy using L3v3nger Ink - that seems to be a "taboo" name around here, for some reason.

I've used their ink for years in my vintage and contemporary pens without a single problem.

 

One caveat: Levenger inks are, by no means, "permanent" in any way - a drop of tea will splatter the ink on a page that's been dry for days / weeks. [Perhaps that's why no one mentions it.]

 

Can't stand the Parker 51 - not enough ink flow for my taste & I own three of them.

 

Why pay top $$$ for a pen with so much attached "hardware" that it's difficult to hold and use?

 

Cheap Pens: I use $3. Preppys at the office because I don't want to take the chance that I'll damage my vintage FPs or my contemporary pens (or have them stolen). I converted the Preppys to ED Fillers & they're more than adequate for their purpose.

 

Pens & their Boxes: I keep certain pens in their original boxes because I enjoy the experience ("ritual"?) of opening a well-executed Box and removing the "fuctional work of art" within; then I ink the pen with the anticipation of pouring my thoughts out onto paper.

 

I suppose that I approach the process with a certain "reverence" for the pen's creators, and my opportunity to use the result of their work and creativity to document the same for myself.

 

That's all, for now. Thank you.

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OK, my pet peeves:

 

Pen manufacturers who sell EF nibs that aren't good quality. If your EF nib isn't as good as your F and M, then don't sell an EF nib!

 

Why doesn't anyone offer a "pen system" where you choose the individual components, and all of them interchangeable in case your needs change? You could this nib, with that grip section, and that body, and that cap, and this filling system. Then a few years later, you might find that you'd be more comfortable with a different grip.

 

Most vintage pens are too gaudy for my taste. They look like "old lady brooches". I don't like pens that look like jewellery. I don't even want my pen to look expensive; I just want it to look well-engineered and well-constructed. Having said that... if I ever do get a decorated pen, I'm going to go all out. I want a great big urushi fire-breathing dragon on it! With some maki-e Hello Kittys to keep it company. (I'm the same way about cars; I just want mine to be practical, reliable and unassuming. But if I ever do get a Range Rover it's going to have zebra stripes like the one in Daktari! Every time I see a Range Rover, I think "what a waste to spend all that money and not get the zebra stripes".)

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I don't like German fountain pens at all, not that I think they're of note for being bad I just haven't met one I've liked.

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I love Japanese pens, even the cheap ones, but every time someone asks for a cheap pen recommendation, all we hear are "BUY A LAMY 2000" and "GET A PELIKAN M800!"

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  On 5/28/2010 at 11:24 PM, bluemagister said:

I love Japanese pens, even the cheap ones, but every time someone asks for a cheap pen recommendation, all we hear are "BUY A LAMY 2000" and "GET A PELIKAN M800!"

 

That's another part of why my former mentality of "not my cup o' tea" turned into an outright sense of avoidance.

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  On 5/28/2010 at 8:12 PM, DavidHandmade said:

Ok - Here's one that I haven't seen mentioned here (yet):

 

I actually enjoy using L3v3nger Ink - that seems to be a "taboo" name around here, for some reason.

I've used their ink for years in my vintage and contemporary pens without a single problem.

 

One caveat: Levenger inks are, by no means, "permanent" in any way - a drop of tea will splatter the ink on a page that's been dry for days / weeks. [Perhaps that's why no one mentions it.]

 

Can't stand the Parker 51 - not enough ink flow for my taste & I own three of them.

 

Why pay top $$$ for a pen with so much attached "hardware" that it's difficult to hold and use?

 

Cheap Pens: I use $3. Preppys at the office because I don't want to take the chance that I'll damage my vintage FPs or my contemporary pens (or have them stolen). I converted the Preppys to ED Fillers & they're more than adequate for their purpose.

 

Pens & their Boxes: I keep certain pens in their original boxes because I enjoy the experience ("ritual"?) of opening a well-executed Box and removing the "fuctional work of art" within; then I ink the pen with the anticipation of pouring my thoughts out onto paper.

 

I suppose that I approach the process with a certain "reverence" for the pen's creators, and my opportunity to use the result of their work and creativity to document the same for myself.

 

That's all, for now. Thank you.

 

 

Re the Parker 51. Mine are fairly wet but the very wet ones I have are the wonderful Parker 51 replicas made by Ariel kulock in Argentina

Try one you might like it

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  On 5/28/2010 at 11:24 PM, bluemagister said:

I love Japanese pens, even the cheap ones, but every time someone asks for a cheap pen recommendation, all we hear are "BUY A LAMY 2000" and "GET A PELIKAN M800!"

 

Those two pens don't fit my idea of "cheap" and I'm not fond of Pelikan pens, I do, however LOVE their inks!

 

Cheap is a Preppy, which IMHO out performs my "cheap" Pelikan that cost 8 times more...

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  On 5/29/2010 at 3:23 AM, 79spitfire said:
  On 5/28/2010 at 11:24 PM, bluemagister said:

I love Japanese pens, even the cheap ones, but every time someone asks for a cheap pen recommendation, all we hear are "BUY A LAMY 2000" and "GET A PELIKAN M800!"

 

Those two pens don't fit my idea of "cheap" and I'm not fond of Pelikan pens, I do, however LOVE their inks!

 

Cheap is a Preppy, which IMHO out performs my "cheap" Pelikan that cost 8 times more...

 

 

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1) dont agree with how some people say the 149 is overpriced.. i have bought one (it was not for full retail price, used once and mint condition) but having written with it for many months now for just about everything i can honestly say that i would happily pay full retail for the same pen because it is just such a good writing experience.. i have quite large hands and it fits them perfectly. I plan on getting another one (with a different nib size of course!) pretty soon

 

2) dont agree with how some people can't see the point in having multiple pens "inked" - there are numerous reasons for it.. what about if you run out of ink in your main pen? (happens to me when i have a long day at university) or what if you want to write in different colours? or (in my case) you are writing on lecture notes and need a finer nib than you prefer normally to fit everything in?

 

3) multiple of the same pen? i say why not.. i love my Pelikan Souveran pens (600 and 800) and my montblanc 149 more than any other pens.. i would buy more of them.

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  On 5/29/2010 at 11:13 AM, aget19 said:

1) dont agree with how some people say the 149 is overpriced.. i have bought one (it was not for full retail price, used once and mint condition) but having written with it for many months now for just about everything i can honestly say that i would happily pay full retail for the same pen because it is just such a good writing experience.. i have quite large hands and it fits them perfectly. I plan on getting another one (with a different nib size of course!) pretty soon

 

2) dont agree with how some people can't see the point in having multiple pens "inked" - there are numerous reasons for it.. what about if you run out of ink in your main pen? (happens to me when i have a long day at university) or what if you want to write in different colours? or (in my case) you are writing on lecture notes and need a finer nib than you prefer normally to fit everything in?

 

3) multiple of the same pen? i say why not.. i love my Pelikan Souveran pens (600 and 800) and my montblanc 149 more than any other pens.. i would buy more of them.

 

 

1) Can't afford one myself at the moment; although come to think of it; I probably spent the same amount of money on all my other pens and inks, although at the moment I view that as better value for money.

 

2) Exactly the same boat there. Long days at university, or at home studying require multiple pens, if not for variation between points/sections in lecture material, then to stave off boredom and to give an excuse for constructive procrastination...

 

3) Definitely agree. As I mentioned in my previous post, I want lots of different inks available all the time, and since I like Frontiers, Vectors and 45s, then I will get more of those to hold my inks. Since my previous post, I have also acquired a plethora of Lamys, mainly Safaris with broad nibs (the latest phase/craze for me). The beauty is, that when I go off broad nibs, I can change the nibs on my Safaris cheaply.

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  On 5/29/2010 at 11:13 AM, aget19 said:

1) dont agree with how some people say the 149 is overpriced.. i have bought one (it was not for full retail price, used once and mint condition) but having written with it for many months now for just about everything i can honestly say that i would happily pay full retail for the same pen because it is just such a good writing experience.. i have quite large hands and it fits them perfectly. I plan on getting another one (with a different nib size of course!) pretty soon

 

2) dont agree with how some people can't see the point in having multiple pens "inked" - there are numerous reasons for it.. what about if you run out of ink in your main pen? (happens to me when i have a long day at university) or what if you want to write in different colours? or (in my case) you are writing on lecture notes and need a finer nib than you prefer normally to fit everything in?

 

3) multiple of the same pen? i say why not.. i love my Pelikan Souveran pens (600 and 800) and my montblanc 149 more than any other pens.. i would buy more of them.

1) Overpriced, because I cannot afford one. If I could, it would not be.

2) I always have 6 pens on the go at once, each with a different colored ink, and nib width variances, because in the work I do I need to differentiate easily between various types of text and diagrams and I use a color scheme to aid understanding of my notes.

3) I have several pairs of pens, identical except for variances in color, because I discovered that I liked one for a particular purpose, so I duplicated it to use with a different colored ink.

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Fountain pen taboos? There aren't any! Some of my pens are on the cranky side, but I think of that as their personality. Each of my pens is different -- some have sentimental value, some do not work at all, some are splendid performers, some are wonderfully made and some not.

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Nakaya Writer Wajima-Urushi nuri Kikyo long pen fp - Grayson Tighe Twist Damascus fp - Mont Blanc Ramses mp - Pelikan M800 (2) - Restored 1936 Conklin Nozac fp - 1935 Waterman #3 mp - Namiki Falcon fp - Lamy Al-Star fp (2) - Parker 51 (8) - Swan/Mabie Todd fp - Wality 69L (3) - et alii

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  On 5/29/2010 at 11:13 AM, aget19 said:

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2) dont agree with how some people can't see the point in having multiple pens "inked" - there are numerous reasons for it.. what about if you run out of ink in your main pen? (happens to me when i have a long day at university) or what if you want to write in different colours? or (in my case) you are writing on lecture notes and need a finer nib than you prefer normally to fit everything in?

 

It's a daily occurrence for me to run out of ink in my black-ink-pen. I, therefore, always carry two...sometimes I manage to get through both of them in one day...

 

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3) multiple of the same pen? i say why not.. i love my Pelikan Souveran pens (600 and 800) and my montblanc 149 more than any other pens.. i would buy more of them.

 

Yup, why not? When having found a tool that *works*, I do not see any reason to not stick with it. With one exception (a GvFC pen-- and that's because I do not see them often around here), I have numerous pieces of the same pen (maybe in different colors/trims/* to distinguish in which I have what color ink or which size nib).

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      horse notebooks if you search the title should still appear though it wont show you in your proflie
    • Jayme Brener 16 Sept 22:21
      Hi, guys. I wonder if somebody knows who manufactured the Coro fountain pens.
    • TheHorseNotebooks 16 Sept 13:11
      Hello, it's been ages for me since I was here last time. I had a post (http://www.fountainpennetwork...-notebooks/?view=getnewpost) but I see that it is no longer accessible. Is there anyway to retrieve that one?
    • Refujio Rodriguez 16 Sept 5:39
      I have a match stick simplomatic with a weidlich nib. Does anyone know anything about this pen?
    • The_Beginner 15 Sept 16:11
      dusty yes, glen welcome
    • Glens pens 11 Sept 1:22
      Hello, Im new to FPN I'm so happy to find other foutain penattics. collecting almost one year ,thought I would say hello to everyone.
    • DustyBin 8 Sept 14:34
      I haven't been here for ages... do I take it that private sales are no longer allowed? Also used to be a great place to sell and buy some great pens
    • Sailor Kenshin 1 Sept 12:37
      Lol…
    • JungleJim 1 Sept 1:55
      Perhaps it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times to get that person to appear, though with @Sailor Kenshin you only have to say it twice?
    • Sailor Kenshin 31 Aug 21:06
      ?
    • Duffy 29 Aug 19:31
      @Sailor Kenshin @Sailor Kenshin
    • Seney724 26 Aug 22:07
    • Diablo 26 Aug 22:05
      Thank you so much, Seney724. I really appreciate your help!
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:43
      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
    • Sailor Kenshin 15 July 17:41
      There must be a couple of places here to share artworks.
    • T.D. Rabbit 15 July 12:45
      Hullo! I really like making ink doodles, and I'd like to share a few. Anywhere on the site I can do so? Thanks in advance!
    • Sailor Kenshin 6 July 17:58
      Pay It Forward.
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