Architect Style

[StanSoph]

Damn shame to have to use that as you everyday hand. The things people are tortured with. I am only kidding, I will do my best to emulate the "style" and thanks for the link. The writing you did on your ink review is better than I can do with a typewriter;) Thanks for sharing.

[dwmatteson]

PinarelloOnly --

 

I absolutely love your handwriting (I've aspired to write like that for years starting, believe it or not, in the fifth grade). The drawings are fantastic, but I have to admit that the high point for me is the bird.

[PinarelloOnly]

Thank You StanSoph!!!

 

 

 

dwmatteson,

 

Haaaa you noticed the bird. That is part of my "signature". When I show grade (ground

level) on a drawing I always try to squeeze a tweety in there somewhere.

 

 

Scott.

[RichKen]

Architectural Lettering Sampler

 

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/RichKen/Architectural%20Lettering/Springbrook-entry-sm.jpg

 

This is a scan of an old print I found that was done after the transition from pencil drawings and lettering, on vellum tracing paper to mylar. The introduction of mylar drafting film allowed the use of ink for drawing and lettering in a much friendlier way than vellum or cloth medium allowed. You could erase your mistakes even if inked. Mylar was great.

 

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/RichKen/Architectural%20Lettering/Osmiroid-sketch-FP.jpg

 

A rapidograph pen was used to make the drawings and stenciled title letters (obvious for their consistency) and an Osmiroid pen with a steel India Ink nib ground to an oblique italic was used for the dimensions and notes.

 

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/RichKen/Architectural%20Lettering/Sketch-nib.jpg

 

Diazo prints made from mylar originals were crisp and easy to read. This print was made 9/30/1987 …… oh my, time flies. Shortly thereafter CAD emerged in smaller architectural firms and has replaced the means by which architectural drawings are produced in most offices with the rare exception. Oh yes, the drawing and lettering were done by me unbelieveably (to moi) 19 years ago.

Edited September 13, 2006 by RichKen

[RichKen]

Gee, nobody is reading this post. Thought it would be of interest.

[WillAdams]

I read it and thought it was quite interesting, especially w/ the later information in another thread that the nib in the Osmiroid was suitable for waterproof India inks 'cause it could be dissassembled for cleaning.

 

William

[a11en]

Gee, nobody is reading this post. Thought it would be of interest.

Actually- crazy-interesting! Wonderful drafting as well, Rich!! Sorry, I didn't catch this update- I tend to miss some posts when it's not the top-post changed.

 

Thanks a ton for upping that example. Just love the drawing- can you explain the nib/point a bit better? How does a radiograph differ from an FP?

 

Thanks!!

-Allen

[daveguy]

Gee, nobody is reading this post. Thought it would be of interest.

 

I know the post is aged, but I spent all day @ doing fountain pen related browsing online. I've found this site in general, and specifically this post to have been a great resource.

 

My fiance is graduating in Spring 09 w. MS in Architecture... i was looking for graduation presents ) TMLee hooked it up w. an excellent example!

 

Thanks to all you guys, and I look forward to reading more in the coming months!

 

- d.g -

[Pensee]

Gee, nobody is reading this post. Thought it would be of interest.

 

Well thanks for 'bumping' it!

 

Never saw it, but maybe my viewer doesn't display enough topics.

 

Like the style of capital his capital letters like "A" & so on.

 

And that was a really cool picture of vintage drafting pen.

 

Just a newb's thoughts

 

--Bruce

[cfclark]

This brings up some interesting memories for me...I am not an architect, but years ago (20 years ago this fall, in fact) a young lady on whom I'd had a little crush () started her architectural education as an undergrad, at a different university from mine. She had to learn that type of lettering and insisted in writing all her letters to me in that script. To this day, seeing architectural lettering reminds me of those letters, to the point that I recall how they smelled.

 

Now, we are still in touch, but she sends emails, not letters, and I think she does all her drawings with CAD. <sigh>

[Philips]

I've enjoyed reading through these posts and looking at the drawings. I'm 36 now but when I started off in the drawing office a good few years ago I was very lucky to have two older mentors who only ever worked on drawing boards, I was introduced to drive the CAD system on one of the computers the company had bought.

 

Those two draughtsmen both had their own drawing and lettering 'styles' which always fascinated me. Their engineering drawings were on Mylar film and we used an ammonia copier for creating paper prints. Although working on a 3D CAD system I tried to develop my own 'style' for the 2D drawings as well, the font or script I adopted was called 'ISOCP' and I always set an oblique angle of 5 degrees to make it look a little like the drawings of the older draughtsmen. I think a lot of skill and discipline has been lost which is a real shame. I am a little bit pedantic and like to spend some time ensuring that my drawings are well laid out and well presented.

 

Edit: I still use an old clutch pencil that one of those draughtsmen gave me when he retired.

 

Edit No.2: Have just remembered the day that I found a roll of old inked drawings on linen. They stayed stacked next to my computer screen until they were forcibly removed from my possesion during an office 'tidy-up'

Edited December 18, 2008 by Philips

[Titivillus]

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Edit No.2: Have just remembered the day that I found a roll of old inked drawings on linen. They stayed stacked next to my computer screen until they were forcibly removed from my possesion during an office 'tidy-up'

 

I'm in charge of two projects drawings right now one is 144 sheets and the other is 24 sheets. Both are done on a flavor of intelligent CAD but this afternoon I did a pencil sketch of a system because it was faster, easier and more fun to do it that way. Of course, it got scanned and is now on it's way across the globe. But I still keep a bag of all my drawing kit together just in case. I have also learned that I need to brush up on my style as I've been getting questions about what my characters mean!

 

K

 

 

 

[TMLee]

Gee, nobody is reading this post. Thought it would be of interest.

 

I know the post is aged, but I spent all day @ doing fountain pen related browsing online. I've found this site in general, and specifically this post to have been a great resource.

 

My fiance is graduating in Spring 09 w. MS in Architecture... i was looking for graduation presents ) TMLee hooked it up w. an excellent example!

 

Thanks to all you guys, and I look forward to reading more in the coming months!

 

- d.g -

 

 

So , what's the present ? (If it doesn't ruin the surprise coming her way.... )

LAMY Safari ? (having it stubbed would make it real special for her)

Clutch pencil ?

Brown ink ?

Rgds

TMLee

oh.. don't forget the flowers too ...

Edited December 19, 2008 by TMLee

[daveguy]

So , what's the present ? (If it doesn't ruin the surprise coming her way.... )

LAMY Safari ? (having it stubbed would make it real special for her)

Clutch pencil ?

Brown ink ?

Rgds

TMLee

oh.. don't forget the flowers too ...

 

 

In addition to a FP to replace the Waterman she dropped nib-first into the cement (probably a red LAMY safari, but with black ink), I have also tried to find a well made wooden toolbox ex: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/img/assets...toolbox_02a.jpg

 

It doesn't need to be that large, but it's gotta be similar in design... i know she'll dig it if I can find one.

 

I'm not exactly sure what 'stubbed' means... but i suspect that the nib gets ground to change the way it writes? She's a lefty, and if it would make the pen write nicer then it's a great idea too. Am I correct about the definition? and if so, how does one go about getting a stubbed FP nib?

 

 

 

[RichKen]

In addition to a FP to replace the Waterman she dropped nib-first into the cement (probably a red LAMY safari, but with black ink), I have also tried to find a well made wooden toolbox ex: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/img/assets...x_02a.jpg"

 

You might take a look at the Gerstner Machinist Toolboxes. I use one to store pens and miscellaneous supplies. Mine is an old box inherited from my Dad. I've seen them occasionally searching for pens in antique shops and malls. They come in a variety of sizes and probably would cost significantly less than the referenced box above - but not cheap.

 

It certainly is a pleasant surprise seeing this old post come to life again.

[daveguy]

You might take a look at the Gerstner Machinist Toolboxes. I use one to store pens and miscellaneous supplies. Mine is an old box inherited from my Dad. I've seen them occasionally searching for pens in antique shops and malls. They come in a variety of sizes and probably would cost significantly less than the referenced box above - but not cheap.

 

It certainly is a pleasant surprise seeing this old post come to life again.

 

Holy cow! These are great boxes. Thank you for the awesome suggestion... she'll really like something like this.

[TMLee]

I'm not exactly sure what 'stubbed' means... but i suspect that the nib gets ground to change the way it writes? She's a lefty, and if it would make the pen write nicer then it's a great idea too. Am I correct about the definition? and if so, how does one go about getting a stubbed FP nib?

 

 

You shld be able to find detailed answers here.

Just scroll to slightly past half of the page.

 

 

 

 

[TMLee]

These boxes are really beautiful.

I am not familiar with these.

What do you guys use them for ?

 

 

 

 

[daveguy]

These boxes are really beautiful.

I am not familiar with these.

What do you guys use them for ?

 

Well, I figure she can use it for all the tools she uses to make physical models for school. She's pretty handy with CAD, but prefers making models of her buildings to renderings with the computer.

 

here's the box I decided on... we'll see if it makes it before Thursday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=160305114511

 

...

 

Also, thanks for the link to the stubbs

[RichKen]

RichKen Posted Dec 19 2008, 02:46 PM

 

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You might take a look at the Gerstner Machinist Toolboxes. I use one to store pens and miscellaneous supplies. Mine is an old box inherited from my Dad. I've seen them occasionally searching for pens in antique shops and malls. They come in a variety of sizes and probably would cost significantly less than the referenced box above - but not cheap. unsure.gif

 

Wow Dave, You did very well. That is just like mine except that mine is oak. I put dividers made of folded stiff paper in the shallow drawers for pens. Model making tools would be an excellent use also.

 

If the key for the lock isn't included, duplicates are available from Gerstner. Recommend this if she keeps it in the studio at school along with a lock and chain. Better yet - keep it at home for the all-night projects if they are still part of the drill for architectural students.

 

Makes me feel like Santa making this suggestion. Glad you could score this one!

 

Regards, Richard

 

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