Help for parker 25 spare parts?

May 17, 2009

Well, the problem is simple:

Is there any place, any chance to get a parker 25 fountain pen cap with orange clip and lining?

Or only a clip with the orange insert and/or the orange plastic lining?

Your help is greatly appreciated!

May 19, 2009

Sorry, but I have never seen those parts for sale. Not even as a part of a complete pen.

I really thought the P25 was limited to

Blue + stainless steel

Black + Stainless Steel

Green + Stainless Steel

All black.

I have never seen an orange, so, there you go. Live and learn. Must be moderately uncommon though.

Regards,

Richard.

May 19, 2009

Sorry, but I have never seen those parts for sale. Not even as a part of a complete pen.

I really thought the P25 was limited to
Blue + stainless steel
Black + Stainless Steel
Green + Stainless Steel
All black.
I have never seen an orange, so, there you go. Live and learn. Must be moderately uncommon though.

Regards,

Richard.

Hi Richard

you are correct when you say the Orange + Stainless Steel are moderately uncommon.

They also came in all matt white, usually with blue stripes around the cap.

I have one in my collection with no blue stripes on the cap. the stripes on this pen were not removed as this would destroy the white finish, (or at the very least leave witness marks) the stripes were never applied I.M.H.O.

As for Shaughn`s problem, finding complete orange furniture P25`s is not easy.

Finding the orange fittings? Slim to none!

Regards

Paul

May 21, 2009

Wow - all white without striping! That's another one to go after

Well, yeah, re the orange trim cap: my hope is on dealers and stores with somewhere in the attic a repair kit with spare parts. Or a miracle.

The story on the orange trim P25 is that the small orange band was an infringement on the Rotring trademark. Even though Parker made it orange instead of red. Rotring filed suit and Parker withdrew the orange trim. It was probably less than 2 years on the market.

I guess I am lucky to have a full set, fountain pen, fibre tip and ballpoint.

May 22, 2009

Wow - all white without striping! That's another one to go after

Well, yeah, re the orange trim cap: my hope is on dealers and stores with somewhere in the attic a repair kit with spare parts. Or a miracle.

The story on the orange trim P25 is that the small orange band was an infringement on the Rotring trademark. Even though Parker made it orange instead of red. Rotring filed suit and Parker withdrew the orange trim. It was probably less than 2 years on the market.

I guess I am lucky to have a full set, fountain pen, fibre tip and ballpoint.

Hi

Thanks for the info about why the orange P25 is less common than the rest.

Would love to see pics of your orange P25 set .

However, don't forget that the full set of modern Parker 25`s consists of 5 writing instruments.

fountain pen, fibre tip, roller ball, ballpoint and pencil (the ballpoint and pencil are identical apart from the insert refill)

I would like to get them all, one day

Regards

Paul

May 25, 2009

Well, Paul, actually it's even worse

Taking pencil and ballpoint for two, we even have six varieties!

There are the FP, the ballpoint and the pencil, then there are the fibre tip with a small metal band around the shell and the roller ball/floating ball with a broad metal band on the shell. That's five. The fibre tip will not take roller ball fillings.

BUT.

There is also a hybrid form that takes both fibre tip and roller ball and I've found them in blue, green and black. I suppose the threads of these shells were in the end too vulnerable and therefore replaced by a somewhat sturdier design. The fibre tip refill was taken out of production, as I heard because it dried out too soon.

Anyhow, this goes for stainless steel and colour trim, not for matte black and matte white pens as these were manufactured after the fibre tip shells and the hybrids disappeared. Nevertheless, because retailers might have changed and replaced parts, you can probably expect to find all combinations 'in the wild'.

Re the pictures:

Pic 1 top: the later floating/roller ball shell with broad metal band, then the hybrid shell with floating ball refill inserted, the green shell with the refill stuck and bottom the common fibre tip shell with fibre tip inserted.

Pic 2: my orange trim P25's!

May 27, 2009

Wow - all white without striping! That's another one to go after

Well, yeah, re the orange trim cap: my hope is on dealers and stores with somewhere in the attic a repair kit with spare parts. Or a miracle.

The story on the orange trim P25 is that the small orange band was an infringement on the Rotring trademark. Even though Parker made it orange instead of red. Rotring filed suit and Parker withdrew the orange trim. It was probably less than 2 years on the market.

I guess I am lucky to have a full set, fountain pen, fibre tip and ballpoint.

Hi

Thanks for the info about why the orange P25 is less common than the rest.

Would love to see pics of your orange P25 set .

However, don't forget that the full set of modern Parker 25`s consists of 5 writing instruments.

fountain pen, fibre tip, roller ball, ballpoint and pencil (the ballpoint and pencil are identical apart from the insert refill)

I would like to get them all, one day

Regards
Paul

I just realized that the one without striping might be made for some special firm or purpose. Nikon for instance has had matte black with silver NIKON, Smiths had a white with red and blue stripng and "Smiths Crisps" on it an partker provided its Dutch representative with an all white and green logo P25. My photography is lousy, I admit and apologize, but I add a picture of these pens.

But it can just as well be a common matte white that escaped a further process of printing.

You won't find many engraved matte black/white pens because the epoxy layer is easily damaged and tends to crumble at the engraving.

May 28, 2009

Well, Paul, actually it's even worse

Taking pencil and ballpoint for two, we even have six varieties!

There are the FP, the ballpoint and the pencil, then there are the fibre tip with a small metal band around the shell and the roller ball/floating ball with a broad metal band on the shell. That's five. The fibre tip will not take roller ball fillings.

BUT.

There is also a hybrid form that takes both fibre tip and roller ball and I've found them in blue, green and black. I suppose the threads of these shells were in the end too vulnerable and therefore replaced by a somewhat sturdier design. The fibre tip refill was taken out of production, as I heard because it dried out too soon.

Anyhow, this goes for stainless steel and colour trim, not for matte black and matte white pens as these were manufactured after the fibre tip shells and the hybrids disappeared. Nevertheless, because retailers might have changed and replaced parts, you can probably expect to find all combinations 'in the wild'.

Re the pictures:
Pic 1 top: the later floating/roller ball shell with broad metal band, then the hybrid shell with floating ball refill inserted, the green shell with the refill stuck and bottom the common fibre tip shell with fibre tip inserted.

Pic 2: my orange trim P25's!

Awwww.

Now look what you have done Shaughn.

That means I will have to go through all my P25 fibre tips just to see if any of them have the hybrid section.

By the way, that orange furniture P25 set is just.

I just realized that the one without striping might be made for some special firm or purpose. Nikon for instance has had matte black with silver NIKON, Smiths had a white with red and blue striping and "Smiths Crisps" on it an parker provided its Dutch representative with an all white and green logo P25. My photography is lousy, I admit and apologize, but I add a picture of these pens.

But it can just as well be a common matte white that escaped a further process of printing.

You won't find many engraved matte black/white pens because the epoxy layer is easily damaged and tends to crumble at the engraving.

Yes I see your point Shaughn.

It would not be too difficult to make an all matt white model from the 2 white ones in your picture as long as they both had interchangeable caps I.E. both F.P`s or fibre tips.

(saying that, it`s not rocket science to change the inner cap or tighten the clip on P25`s)

On a slightly different note.

How common / uncommon would you rate this?

I know the pens are 10 a penny but I have not seen too many triple P 25 boxes floating around.

Your comments are appreciated.

Regards

Paul

May 29, 2009

...

On a slightly different note.
How common / uncommon would you rate this?

I know the pens are 10 a penny but I have not seen too many triple P 25 boxes floating around.
Your comments are appreciated.

Regards
Paul

If statistics derived from my collection are worth a peso...

I have a lot of duo pen boxes, about as much single pen boxes and only one triple box (without sleeve). But I also have to take into account that empty boxes are quite rare at Ebay and when a set of pens comes with it, I do not bid any longer. So there may be quite a lot that escaped my attention. At any rate, boxes nearly allways come without a sleeve and usually more or les damaged. The sleeves are commonly worn and discoloured, the original bright white is rare.

A rough guess:

A triple box is quite uncommon, being complete with its sleeve is very uncommon.

The one you show (apart from the pens), in its apparent condition which seems to approach NOS I would rate it as rare.

I0d keep it in the dark, or at least out of the sun to prevent discolouration (which goes for the matte white pen too - they turn ivory yellow in a wink).

Regards, Shaughn

August 9, 2009

Look what I've found in the wild, baz666 !

An all white Parker 25 rollerball.

As it came from a former Parker representative, it's more probable now that all white P25s are rare factory products.

With it were more white P25 offered, all white with company logos. My guess is therefore that these all whiteys were rather demonstrator pens for representatives than intended for the common public.

By the way, it came from the local, dutch marketplace. I'll put a link at the market watch.

August 9, 2009

Look what I've found in the wild, baz666 !

An all white Parker 25 rollerball.

As it came from a former Parker representative, it's more probable now that all white P25s are rare factory products.

With it were more white P25 offered, all white with company logos. My guess is therefore that these all whiteys were rather demonstrator pens for representatives than intended for the common public.

By the way, it came from the local, dutch marketplace. I'll put a link at the market watch.

Very nice

Thanks for the info.

It is now looking less likely that mine is a franken25.

Regards

Paul

August 10, 2009

Shaugn, the only place I've seen that sells separate bits of Parker 25s is Battersea Pens Home. They definitely do clips (not sure if they do caps), but I don't know if they do one with an orange button. It might be worth emailing them to see if they can find you one even if the part in question isn't listed on their site, though.

Edited August 10, 2009 by dogpoet

January 16, 2010

Another indication that an all-white P25 is not a Frankenpen:

http://parkercollector.com/parker25.html shows at the bottom also an all white Parker 25 !

Ohw, and Dogpoet - thanks, but BPH cannot help me.

January 13, 2011

Ohw, and Dogpoet - thanks, but BPH cannot help me.

I stand corrected and

I sing the praise and glory of the Battersea Pen Home!

A great many years ago, 2008 or so, I asked the Battersea Pen Home by mail the P25 orange trim FP cap question. At that time they had not and so a year ago I said that...

But I ordered a week ago some spare parts and apparently they remembered! With my order came a fully functional original orange trim Parker 25 fountain pen cap. I could hardly believe my eyes reading their message and finding that cap. Praise and glory to the Battersea Pen Home!

Now I am the proud owner and user of another complete P25 orange trim set of Fountain pen, Fibre tip and Biro...

One set for the collection, one set for use. How happy a man can be!

January 14, 2011

Well done Shaughn

Shouldn't that be, One set for the collection, one set for sale.

Paul.

April 23, 2012

They are amazing.

Well, Paul, actually it's even worse <img src="https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Taking pencil and ballpoint for two, we even have six varieties!

There are the FP, the ballpoint and the pencil, then there are the fibre tip with a small metal band around the shell and the roller ball/floating ball with a broad metal band on the shell. That's five. The fibre tip will not take roller ball fillings.

BUT.

There is also a hybrid form that takes both fibre tip and roller ball and I've found them in blue, green and black. I suppose the threads of these shells were in the end too vulnerable and therefore replaced by a somewhat sturdier design. The fibre tip refill was taken out of production, as I heard because it dried out too soon.

Anyhow, this goes for stainless steel and colour trim, not for matte black and matte white pens as these were manufactured after the fibre tip shells and the hybrids disappeared. Nevertheless, because retailers might have changed and replaced parts, you can probably expect to find all combinations 'in the wild'.

Re the pictures:
Pic 1 top: the later floating/roller ball shell with broad metal band, then the hybrid shell with floating ball refill inserted, the green shell with the refill stuck and bottom the common fibre tip shell with fibre tip inserted.

Pic 2: my orange trim P25's!