Where to buy Noodler's in France

[Daniel Rombi]

HI,

 

i'm french living in Paris and i can't find Noodler's Ink here. Do someone know if it's possible to find these inks in france or in europe?

 

Thank you all

[mitsue]

Hello !

 

I'm french too but not living in Paris (I'm living in Reims).

I don't know any dealer for Noodler's here but I know you can buy it on the website of The Writing Desk wich is in England.

Here is the link to Noodler's inks :

http://thewritingdesk.co.uk/showproduct.ph...t=ink&subr=

 

I hope it can help you.

Edited April 27, 2009 by mitsue

[GeeTee]

As Mitsue says, The Writing Desk is a good source for Noodlers. There are two other reliable suppliers of Noodlers in Europe:

Niche Pens (http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/) in the UK and The Missing Pen in Germany (http://www.missing-pen.de/indexk.htm)

(No affiliation)

 

 

[voop]

I'm non-French but living in Paris, France (well, ok, in a suburb) -- and having been persuaded by FPN, I'm on the look-out for (more fancy) ink as well. I've scheduled to do a run of the various local Brick-and-mortar stores one of these days, and although I'm looking mostly for Herbin (it comes in cartridges) I'l ask for Noodlers and report back if you want

[ZeissIkon]

Private Reserve is sold in cartridges, too, voop...

[voop]

Private Reserve is sold in cartridges, too, voop...

 

Ahh, choices, choices....

 

Thus far, I've simply been using Waterman cartridges of different colors -- they're readily available around here. Then someone mentioned Herbin and that I should really try.... How does Private Reserve position itself? (Or, is that a "can open, worms everywhere" question?)

[Eternally Noodling]

Private Reserve is sold in cartridges, too, voop...

 

Ahh, choices, choices....

 

Thus far, I've simply been using Waterman cartridges of different colors -- they're readily available around here. Then someone mentioned Herbin and that I should really try.... How does Private Reserve position itself? (Or, is that a "can open, worms everywhere" question?)

 

 

We got into a tad bit of trouble with a retailer who likes the markups on cartridges for the inclusion of the following with Heart of Darkness bottles, as he put it "bit of trash propaganda only a cheap Bast@rd would think up!" (whew!, he still sells Noodler's though!):

 

Why does the Noodler's Ink Company insist on bottled ink, when virtually all other ink companies issue disposable ink cartridges? We actually believe that disposable ink cartridges are incompatible with our goals of providing our customers with the "fairest deal possible per dollar given our resources and abilities". A 4.5 oz. bottle of our ink has the equivalent of $72.94 in the LEAST COSTLY retail cartridges in the world (for comparable ink - though not “bulletproof” - and we exclude free promotional cartridges at shows) - and $36.09 in the least costly retail ink of any quality in North America (lowest cost non permanent inks imported from central Asia). Ink cartridges from European, Japanese, and the North American companies that issue them routinely amount to well over $148 per 4.5 oz. and in several instances average well over $315! (Quotes obtained as of 1/16/09) We find this to be outrageously excessive (particularly in instances where the ink has inferior properties!!) and will continue to issue only bottled ink (and some free pens) until industry/technology is capable of equal costs at the retail level for both bottled and cartridge ink per given weight and/or volume of ink. As to the environmental costs of disposable cartridges - we believe frugality tends to be a natural ally of a cleaner environment (which is not the same as "environmentalists"). Why waste cartridges when a refillable fountain pen holds more ink and for far less overall costs? As to writing quality - you have the free pen in this box…you can see for yourself how it writes. We are confident that it will serve you well – otherwise it would not have been issued in the first place. ;-)

 

 

Paris, France? If there is a retailer who is willing to deal with French customs, we are ready and willing to try again. However, if French customs asks us for proprietary data about how our inks are manufactured - we'll respectfully decline their request for this intellectual property and continue to sell our inks in countries that respect intellectual property to a greater degree: such as Germany, England, Poland, and Sweden.... It is interesting to note that the People's Republic of China has fewer restrictions and requirements upon/of us than France - in fact, we were given faster access because their government deemed Noodler's a "unique product" meaning that some of our line does not have readily available alternatives that are domestically produced there. "The Chinese consumer should have the greatest selection of the world's products." Wow. What a change since 1971! This despite our production of such inks as "Tiananmen" and "Year of the Golden Pig" as well as our Taiwan series of inks (which is strictly for Taiwan and does not see the light of day on the mainland).

 

[kiavonne]

I likes me Noodler's and will continue to flush and refill cartridges with Noodler's when I have to. Mostly only use cartridges in my VPs because they hold more ink.

[voop]

Not really sure where to cut here, but I try....

 

Private Reserve is sold in cartridges, too, voop...

 

Ahh, choices, choices....

 

Thus far, I've simply been using Waterman cartridges of different colors -- they're readily available around here. Then someone mentioned Herbin and that I should really try.... How does Private Reserve position itself? (Or, is that a "can open, worms everywhere" question?)

 

We got into a tad bit of trouble with a retailer who likes the markups on cartridges for the inclusion of the following with Heart of Darkness bottles, as he put it "bit of trash propaganda only a cheap Bast@rd would think up!" (whew!, he still sells Noodler's though!):

 

Why does the Noodler's Ink Company insist on bottled ink, when virtually all other ink companies issue disposable ink cartridges? We actually believe that disposable ink cartridges are incompatible with our goals of providing our customers with the "fairest deal possible per dollar given our resources and abilities".

 

<SNIP - price-comparison bottle-vs-cartridge>

 

As to the environmental costs of disposable cartridges - we believe frugality tends to be a natural ally of a cleaner environment (which is not the same as "environmentalists"). Why waste cartridges when a refillable fountain pen holds more ink and for far less overall costs? As to writing quality - you have the free pen in this box…you can see for yourself how it writes. We are confident that it will serve you well – otherwise it would not have been issued in the first place. ;-)

 

 

Undoubtedly, you are right in the above and I certainly sympathize with the environmental concerns a great deal. That said, I spend, ohh, about 100-150 days/year "on the road", and much of that involves air-travel. I am not sure that the security-kabuki that is the TSA and their brethren would take well to bottled ink. Further, while swapping cartridge can be discretely done mid-meeting if need be, filling from a bottle in the same situation might aspire to "pretentious" (https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...howtopic=102451) by requiring a little more elaborate and "archaic" action.

 

I might get a bottle for the pen that lives at my home desk, though, but I do not see an easy way of using bottled ink in the pens that live with me in my purse or briefcase.

 

Eternally Noodling, I would assume from your writing that you are a representative of the reputed brand Noodler's? Would there be something I'm missing in the above (such as somebody doing leak-proof refillable re-sealable cartridges....)?

 

Paris, France? If there is a retailer who is willing to deal with French customs, we are ready and willing to try again. However, if French customs asks us for proprietary data about how our inks are manufactured - we'll respectfully decline their request for this intellectual property and.....

 

Well, I am not French, although I live there for 10+ years and am an EU citizen. I was at some point many years ago "detained" by French customs for having a pack of aspirin in my bag. Despite it being a blister-pack, brand new and with "Aspirin" written all over it, was bought in France and with French text on the box, I was "asked to wait" (!!) until they'd dug up a physician who could confirm that Aspirin was indeed Aspirin and could be brought into the country.

 

Customs and customs agents are always....ehh....interesting

[Eternally Noodling]

Paris, France? If there is a retailer who is willing to deal with French customs, we are ready and willing to try again. However, if French customs asks us for proprietary data about how our inks are manufactured - we'll respectfully decline their request for this intellectual property and....

 

Well, I am not French, although I live there for 10+ years and am an EU citizen. I was at some point many years ago "detained" by French customs for having a pack of aspirin in my bag. Despite it being a blister-pack, brand new and with "Aspirin" written all over it, was bought in France and with French text on the box, I was "asked to wait" (!!) until they'd dug up a physician who could confirm that Aspirin was indeed Aspirin and could be brought into the country.

 

Customs and customs agents are always....ehh....interesting

 

 

We will offer cartridges the day we can offer them whereby the cost of the ink to the consumer equals the cost of ink obtained in a bottle. There are patents in the pipeline - so I can tell you with confidence the problem is being worked on... There is also an interesting development in plastics technology which enables pen cartridges to be environmentally sound AND more economical. More on that once I have more working prototypes -

 

In the meantime there are manufacturer's of "traveling ink pots" and there are many people who carry refilled cartridges (Platinum cartridges are among the easiest - once the steel bearing is popped into place it is generally as good as new for 15 to 20 refills before the seal wears). With a good sized and reliably efficient eyedropper fountain pen I could write all my final exams over the course of three weeks and still have ink left over a couple months later when (now unfortunately, seemingly a long time ago) I was a student. That was a massive amount of writing per single filling of ink. Eyedroppers tend to be able to dwarf other filling mechanisms when it comes to ink capacity - which is why we include them free with our 4.5 oz (approx 135 ml) bottles.

 

Many French Noodler's users obtain their ink from UK and German sources within the EU....that will likely remain the case for a while as several lines are reaching capacity anyway and thus market expansion there is now less possible. Add to that a hostile French customs office and it is the straw on the camels back - just plain discouraging (I'm half French!! It was one of the first overseas destinations Noodler's attempted, repeatedly and unsuccessfully.).

Edited April 29, 2009 by Eternally Noodling

[RLTodd]

FWIW, I have been led to understand that the French Government uses the Customs Service when they are prevented from imposing desired duties on imports. The stall accomplishes the same effect with out the problems (trade treaties for example) of imposing a duty. It protects local manufactures from outside competition.

 

 

[Anne-Sophie]

Paris, France? If there is a retailer who is willing to deal with French customs, we are ready and willing to try again. However, if French customs asks us for proprietary data about how our inks are manufactured - we'll respectfully decline their request for this intellectual property and....

 

Well, I am not French, although I live there for 10+ years and am an EU citizen. I was at some point many years ago "detained" by French customs for having a pack of aspirin in my bag. Despite it being a blister-pack, brand new and with "Aspirin" written all over it, was bought in France and with French text on the box, I was "asked to wait" (!!) until they'd dug up a physician who could confirm that Aspirin was indeed Aspirin and could be brought into the country.

 

Customs and customs agents are always....ehh....interesting

 

 

We will offer cartridges the day we can offer them whereby the cost of the ink to the consumer equals the cost of ink obtained in a bottle. There are patents in the pipeline - so I can tell you with confidence the problem is being worked on... There is also an interesting development in plastics technology which enables pen cartridges to be environmentally sound AND more economical. More on that once I have more working prototypes -

 

In the meantime there are manufacturer's of "traveling ink pots" and there are many people who carry refilled cartridges (Platinum cartridges are among the easiest - once the steel bearing is popped into place it is generally as good as new for 15 to 20 refills before the seal wears). With a good sized and reliably efficient eyedropper fountain pen I could write all my final exams over the course of three weeks and still have ink left over a couple months later when (now unfortunately, seemingly a long time ago) I was a student. That was a massive amount of writing per single filling of ink. Eyedroppers tend to be able to dwarf other filling mechanisms when it comes to ink capacity - which is why we include them free with our 4.5 oz (approx 135 ml) bottles.

 

Many French Noodler's users obtain their ink from UK and German sources within the EU....that will likely remain the case for a while as several lines are reaching capacity anyway and thus market expansion there is now less possible. Add to that a hostile French customs office and it is the straw on the camels back - just plain discouraging (I'm half French!! It was one of the first overseas destinations Noodler's attempted, repeatedly and unsuccessfully.).

 

 

You are half French! That is why some of the ink names are in French!

 

Love it, I am half French too, French born, American citizen.

 

Looove your inks, lots of colors and pretty names.

 

Anyhow people in Paris can always take the train to London and get some Noodler there. Or French can order online from other European retailers.

 

Don't give them your formulations, they have no right to ask for them.

 

 

I know why they are doing that.

 

French student use a ginormous amount of erasable blue ink.

There is no other ink maker that provides as much ink in a bottle as Noodler with exception of Pelikan with their giant bottles but I never saw them in France. (probably for the same reason)

 

They let in no name erasable blue ink cartridges but I now suspect that they were made by Stypen or Reynolds, French companies.

 

The minute French students get wind of Noodler, you can bet that you will need to produce much more blue ink.

 

It also works for pinks, turquoises, purples and oranges, girly colors used for correspondence among teens.

Or to underline notes or make them fun or separate them by subject.

 

 

[optimus]

Noodlers Ink and Fountain Pens are now distributed in France by the stationery shop : L'Ecritoire Paris.

This is the address : 61 rue Saint Martin 75004 Paris.

 

that is a great news :)