My first Cursive Italic nib

[Goodwhiskers]

I'm coming to the conclusion that, at least for me, cursive italics are not really suited for speed writing.

 

My next pen from Richard will be a 0.6 mm oblique stub, so we'll see how that plays out. But now you have me thinking... I wonder if a 0.7 mm stub will have more line variation than a 0.6 mm stub ...

Stephen: A wider stub would probably give more line variation.

 

About speed:

 

I just recently got a pen with a 30º left-foot oblique, cursive italic nib (ground from a new-stock, steel, Sheaffer medium by Pendemonium's grinder). I'm right-handed, and I don't rotate pens during writing; this pen is for Hebrew and Chinese. It makes me look better in both scripts . It's smooth-writing and even a little bit flexible.

 

It's not for fast writing in Hebrew, whether in block style or flourishy modern cursive ("cursive" for Hebrew means shaped for quick writing, but not connected), because some push strokes have put holes in paper. Hebrew, for right-handed writers, uses several push strokes, and this pen needs care for strokes that put the "forward" tine in the lead. Nevertheless, this pen still allows me to write faster in cursive than in block style (the slight rounding of the edges does help). The good-looking letters are worth the slowdown.

 

In Chinese I write in "block" (elementary school and printed book form, "kai shu") style. So far, my speed experiments in Chinese have put no holes in paper. Kai shu, for right-handed writers, uses very few push movements. I'm slowly working on the two Chinese "cursive" styles, "xing shu" and "cao shu," which require a few more pushes. I haven't tried this pen in those styles yet.

 

I've ordered, and am waiting for, an Arabic-and-Hebrew-specific calligraphy nib from Richard Binder, which should arrive in about a week. I understand it isn't designed for fast writing.

[RonB]

Wow, Ron - looks great! No mistaking that blue with that nib for a BP!

 

For Ron, Kelly, and Chupie, how high are your capital letters on average?

My capital letters are about 1/4 inch high.

 

Ron

[Betty]

I'm coming to the conclusion that, at least for me, cursive italics are not really suited for speed writing.

 

My next pen from Richard will be a 0.6 mm oblique stub, so we'll see how that plays out. But now you have me thinking... I wonder if a 0.7 mm stub will have more line variation than a 0.6 mm stub ...

Stephen: A wider stub would probably give more line variation.

 

About speed:

 

I just recently got a pen with a 30º left-foot oblique, cursive italic nib (ground from a new-stock, steel, Sheaffer medium by Pendemonium's grinder). I'm right-handed, and I don't rotate pens during writing; this pen is for Hebrew and Chinese. It makes me look better in both scripts . It's smooth-writing and even a little bit flexible.

 

It's not for fast writing in Hebrew, whether in block style or flourishy modern cursive ("cursive" for Hebrew means shaped for quick writing, but not connected), because some push strokes have put holes in paper. Hebrew, for right-handed writers, uses several push strokes, and this pen needs care for strokes that put the "forward" tine in the lead. Nevertheless, this pen still allows me to write faster in cursive than in block style (the slight rounding of the edges does help). The good-looking letters are worth the slowdown.

 

In Chinese I write in "block" (elementary school and printed book form, "kai shu") style. So far, my speed experiments in Chinese have put no holes in paper. Kai shu, for right-handed writers, uses very few push movements. I'm slowly working on the two Chinese "cursive" styles, "xing shu" and "cao shu," which require a few more pushes. I haven't tried this pen in those styles yet.

 

I've ordered, and am waiting for, an Arabic-and-Hebrew-specific calligraphy nib from Richard Binder, which should arrive in about a week. I understand it isn't designed for fast writing.

I didn't even know there were really names to chinese handwriting. I have a whole bunch of chinese fonts and one of them is called "Kaishu", which I like because it's regular but still pretty. I've yet to try writing any chinese with my lamy 1.1 calligraphy nib. I wonder how that will fare. But my chinese writing is very slow anyway. I can't for the life of me read cursive chinese. That means I haven't mastered the language well enough yet. I have to read block characters.

[chupie]

This is a 1mm stub and my writing (pretty average sample too. Caps fill line to line of basic lined paper.)

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...?showtopic=9144

[Goodwhiskers]

I didn't even know there were really names to chinese handwriting.  I have a whole bunch of chinese fonts and one of them is called "Kaishu", which I like because it's regular but still pretty.  I've yet to try writing any chinese with my lamy 1.1 calligraphy nib.  I wonder how that will fare.  But my chinese writing is very slow anyway.  I can't for the life of me read cursive chinese.  That means I haven't mastered the language well enough yet.  I have to read block characters.

 

Discussion of Chinese cursive is continuing in "Penmanship," "Chinese cursive handwriting, adults can learn it."

Edited April 25, 2006 by Goodwhiskers

[JRodriguez]

Great thread everyone. I really like seeing all the writing samples, and I hope you enjoy that new nib!

[Betty]

I've been going back and forth on getting a cursive italic from Richard after LOVING my Lamy 1.1 calligraphy nib, even though it's on the thick side. But I can't really decide on the .7mm and the .6mm, and whether to get steel or gold. Just the cost of the nib is enough to buy one extra pen, so it's still going back and forth, though all your discussion is making it mighty hard to hold back. I was going to send in a pen I already had to get regrind, but I heard the wait process was long, and I have no patience for that.