Some Good News About Pelikan Nibs

[kareth]

do they have italic nibs?

 

Yes, although I think you have to buy them with a body at the moment.

 

thanks

 

could you please tell which all souverans have italic nibs. does m1000 have one?

[cclewis76]

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Just had another thought, what about Pelikan Fahrfergnugen? <img src="https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lticaptd.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ltcapd:" border="0" alt="lticaptd.gif" />

 

(Not sure how widely that ad campaign was used, so the joke might be lost on some of you.)

 

I remember that ad well. That's pretty funny.

[Bronze]

do they have italic nibs?

 

Yes, although I think you have to buy them with a body at the moment.

 

thanks

 

could you please tell which all souverans have italic nibs. does m1000 have one?

 

- So far, only the M800.

 

http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US_INTL.FWI.displayShop.91579./souveraen-m-800-italic

[nicholasyeo]

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

[1000km]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

Edited March 3, 2011 by 1000km

[kareth]

do they have italic nibs?

 

Yes, although I think you have to buy them with a body at the moment.

 

t h a n k _s

 

 

 

could you please tell which all souverans have italic nibs. does m1000 have one?

 

- So far, only the M800.

 

http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US_INTL.FWI.displayShop.91579./souveraen-m-800-italic

[beluga]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

 

 

I fully agree that this is not a QC issue.

 

Rather, it may signify a trend where manufacturers respond to an increasing number of fountain pen users that were originally brought up with ballpoint pens, or are left-handed.

 

Lamy for example, used to offer MK nibs (medium with rounded tip) until a few years ago, but dropped this nib type, as now all Lamy M nibs grounded more roundly.

 

 

 

B.

Edited March 6, 2011 by beluga

[amyx231]

i wanna go!

[amyx231]

you know you are addicted when ur idea of a good time is a fantasy future tour of a factory.

of course, i wanna tour a steel factory too, so maybe thats just me.

[Blade Runner]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

 

 

I fully agree that this is not a QC issue.

 

Rather, it may signify a trend where manufacturers respond to an increasing number of fountain pen users that were originally brought up with ballpoint pens, or are left-handed.

 

Lamy for example, used to offer MK nibs (medium with rounded tip) until a few years ago, but dropped this nib type, as now all Lamy M nibs grounded more roundly.

 

 

 

B.

From the orignal post

"In the course of our tours and discussions, Christian Ehlers, who is the manager of production, took me past a new nib production station and informed me, without any prompting on my part, that Pelikan are aware that they are very much aware that they have had some quality control problems with their nibs and beginning last Fall have taken very aggressive steps to address them."

If you think Pelikan nibs are immune from QC issues, read https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/36769-scratchy-nib-in-a-new-pelikan-m605-and-a-disconcerting-buying-experience/page__p__349855__fromsearch__1#entry349855

[beluga]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

 

 

I fully agree that this is not a QC issue.

 

Rather, it may signify a trend where manufacturers respond to an increasing number of fountain pen users that were originally brought up with ballpoint pens, or are left-handed.

 

Lamy for example, used to offer MK nibs (medium with rounded tip) until a few years ago, but dropped this nib type, as now all Lamy M nibs grounded more roundly.

 

 

 

B.

From the orignal post

"In the course of our tours and discussions, Christian Ehlers, who is the manager of production, took me past a new nib production station and informed me, without any prompting on my part, that Pelikan are aware that they are very much aware that they have had some quality control problems with their nibs and beginning last Fall have taken very aggressive steps to address them."

If you think Pelikan nibs are immune from QC issues, read https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/36769-scratchy-nib-in-a-new-pelikan-m605-and-a-disconcerting-buying-experience/page__p__349855__fromsearch__1#entry349855

 

 

 

I stand by my earlier statement of today that more rounded nibs are not related to possible QC issues.

 

 

That the occasional Pelikan nib (and pen) suffers from QC issues, is a totally different issue that should not be confused with more rounded nibs that are more prevalent today.

 

 

B.

[SnowLeopard]

How many "kpl" can we expect then?

[Blade Runner]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

 

 

I fully agree that this is not a QC issue.

 

Rather, it may signify a trend where manufacturers respond to an increasing number of fountain pen users that were originally brought up with ballpoint pens, or are left-handed.

 

Lamy for example, used to offer MK nibs (medium with rounded tip) until a few years ago, but dropped this nib type, as now all Lamy M nibs grounded more roundly.

 

 

 

B.

From the orignal post

"In the course of our tours and discussions, Christian Ehlers, who is the manager of production, took me past a new nib production station and informed me, without any prompting on my part, that Pelikan are aware that they are very much aware that they have had some quality control problems with their nibs and beginning last Fall have taken very aggressive steps to address them."

If you think Pelikan nibs are immune from QC issues, read https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/36769-scratchy-nib-in-a-new-pelikan-m605-and-a-disconcerting-buying-experience/page__p__349855__fromsearch__1#entry349855

 

 

 

I stand by my earlier statement of today that more rounded nibs are not related to possible QC issues.

 

 

That the occasional Pelikan nib (and pen) suffers from QC issues, is a totally different issue that should not be confused with more rounded nibs that are more prevalent today.

 

 

B.

Nicholas stated that his nib looked like it was made wrongly, that "the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding." That sounds like a QC issue. The comment by 1000 km in direct response to Nicholas' comment, the one that you agreed with, doesn't really address Nicholas's QC issue comment. Instead your reponses try to make it sound like Nicholas's issue is not a QC problem, but rather a modern trend toward round nibs.

Edited March 6, 2011 by Blade Runner

[nicholasyeo]

The shape of the tipping used by Pelikan has become noticably more rounded over the past few years.

 

Whereas vintage nibs have quite a sharp profile, some of the present day nibs are almost ball-like.

 

This is not a manufacturing or QC issue.

 

 

I have had a look at many recent Pelikan nibs and put off buying a M800 because under a loupe the tines are not flat, they are made wrongly.... I don't know any other way to describe this, but the problem cannot be fixed except with grinding. So it is good to hear that the QC process is being put under more scrutiny...

 

 

I fully agree that this is not a QC issue.

 

Rather, it may signify a trend where manufacturers respond to an increasing number of fountain pen users that were originally brought up with ballpoint pens, or are left-handed.

 

Lamy for example, used to offer MK nibs (medium with rounded tip) until a few years ago, but dropped this nib type, as now all Lamy M nibs grounded more roundly.

 

 

 

B.

 

 

When I refer to this problem I am actually talking about this: "Pelikan M800 BB nib suffers from a couple problems.

First, the tipping is not perfectly aligned and second, notice that the place where the ink would touch the paper is

concave and would not touch." http://www.nibs.com/Article6.html" nibs.com's fantastic article here illustrates the

problem. I have seen it for myself under a loupe. The new nib needs to be broken in to remove the round margins.

[Brian]

Thanks for posting. I knew there was a reason why I like this company.

[pajaro]

Well, it's interesting. I have had my share of issues with the nibs, and I think Pelikan has had their shot at my money.

[jglasgow]

Last week I spent Thursday morning at the Pelikan manufacturing plant in Peine, just 30 kilometres east of Hannover.

 

In the course of our tours and discussions, Christian Ehlers, who is the manager of production, took me past a new nib production station and informed me, without any prompting on my part, that Pelikan are aware that they are very much aware that they have had some quality control problems with their nibs and beginning last Fall have taken very aggressive steps to address them.

 

Nibs are now being produced on new equipment and with 100% quality control checking. As I stood there and at another nib station, workers were checking (and rejecting) nibs very carefully.

 

So, I just want to share this good bit of news with those of you who have had concerns over nib quality from Pelikan. Your concerns have been heard and addressed.

 

One other exciting development is that Pelikan is now developing a full line of Italic nibs that will be available soon. Herr Ehlers is not yet sure when they will be available, but the the tooling for them is in process.

 

We had a fairly extensive discussion about Pelikan nibs that morning and I hope to have the post up on my blog in the next couple of days as soon as I get rid of this cold and catch up on grading.

 

I'll let folks know when I have it up.

 

I just bought two 800'S and they're GREAT. LOVE these pens!