Some Good News About Pelikan Nibs

[shrinknib]

Looks like you had a lovely trip Rick.

Good news about the italic nibs and we look forward to them.

Confusing re markings and surprising that even the company does not seem to know what the markings mean!

 

How embarassing for them.

That leaves us to make up some plausible explanations?? "Perfectly Formed"??

 

kind regards

[diplomat]

Since the Swiss, among others, are still not EU members, possibly they require some markings?

 

Good point indeed!

[piscov]

Interesting observations about the PF mark on the M1000 nibs. It does, indeed, cast doubt on what I was told. Dunno what more to say.

 

Maybe this was a misunderstanding, "lost in translation" kind. Since the Swiss, among others, are still not EU members, possibly they require some markings?

 

Try sending an email to Pelikan in Germany. They should be ablle to respond and inform us.

 

Vasco

 

[gregamckinney]

Looks like you had a lovely trip Rick.

Good news about the italic nibs and we look forward to them.

Confusing re markings and surprising that even the company does not seem to know what the markings mean!

 

How embarassing for them.

That leaves us to make up some plausible explanations?? "Perfectly Formed"??

 

kind regards

 

P (elikan)

F (TW!)

?

 

greg

[krandallkraus]

Last week I spent Thursday morning at the Pelikan manufacturing plant in Peine, just 30 kilometres east of Hannover.

 

In the course of our tours and discussions, Christian Ehlers, who is the manager of production, took me past a new nib production station and informed me, without any prompting on my part, that Pelikan are aware that they are very much aware that they have had some quality control problems with their nibs and beginning last Fall have taken very aggressive steps to address them.

 

Nibs are now being produced on new equipment and with 100% quality control checking. As I stood there and at another nib station, workers were checking (and rejecting) nibs very carefully.

 

So, I just want to share this good bit of news with those of you who have had concerns over nib quality from Pelikan. Your concerns have been heard and addressed.

 

One other exciting development is that Pelikan is now developing a full line of Italic nibs that will be available soon. Herr Ehlers is not yet sure when they will be available, but the the tooling for them is in process.

 

We had a fairly extensive discussion about Pelikan nibs that morning and I hope to have the post up on my blog in the next couple of days as soon as I get rid of this cold and catch up on grading.

 

I'll let folks know when I have it up.

 

 

I'm not familiar with your blog sorry to say. Can you give me the URL?

[jips123]

Perhaps PF means Pelikan Fecit (Pelikan made in latin).

[zabo]

Perhaps PF means Pelikan Fecit (Pelikan made in latin).

or Piston Filler... :roflmho:

[eric47]

Perhaps PF means Pelikan Fecit (Pelikan made in latin).

or Piston Filler... :roflmho:

I'd always read that it stood for "Pelikan Fabrik" as in Pelikan factory.

 

I have a nib which I think has an E|N on it (hard to make out clearly) which I bought from Pelikan's ex-US distributor in the 90s. As MarkTrain mentioned in other threads, mine is quite flexible for a modern nib.

 

I posted some pictures of it here.

[dandelion]

What about Pelikan Feder (Feder is German for nib)?

 

Anybody knows when these italics will be ready for sale?

Edited April 29, 2009 by dandelion

[eric47]

What about Pelikan Feder (Feder is German for nib)?

Just had another thought, what about Pelikan Fahrfergnugen? :ltcapd:

 

(Not sure how widely that ad campaign was used, so the joke might be lost on some of you.)

[MarkTrain]

I'm afraid that in the past I have contributed to the logical, but incorrect, assumption that the PF and other oval markings on the nibs had to do with manufacture.

 

Herr Ehlers informed me that they are customs markings for the various pre-EU European nations most notably the Swiss (god bless them).

 

OMG all my knowledge is upside down with this simple statement!

On second thought, this make sense: it couples with the EN engraving (France maybe?).

 

So, the only info that a EN or PF give us is that the nib has been produced before 1992...

 

Rick, thank you very much for the wealth of information that you are providing for us!

 

Cheers,

 

Hi All,

 

Interesting to see this info plus the report that Pelikan will improve it QC/consistency on their nibs and Italic nibs? With spring here and busy outdoors, I haven't posted in awhile.

 

Concerning dating of the EN and PF marks, 1992 sounds right for the EN mark but not the PF mark. I did not start seeing the PF mark until the introduction of the "new style" pens in 1997.

 

Mark

 

PF = Pretty Feet?

 

 

 

[Rick Propas]

I'm afraid that in the past I have contributed to the logical, but incorrect, assumption that the PF and other oval markings on the nibs had to do with manufacture.

 

Herr Ehlers informed me that they are customs markings for the various pre-EU European nations most notably the Swiss (god bless them).

 

OMG all my knowledge is upside down with this simple statement!

On second thought, this make sense: it couples with the EN engraving (France maybe?).

 

So, the only info that a EN or PF give us is that the nib has been produced before 1992...

 

Rick, thank you very much for the wealth of information that you are providing for us!

 

Cheers,

 

Hi All,

 

Interesting to see this info plus the report that Pelikan will improve it QC/consistency on their nibs and Italic nibs? With spring here and busy outdoors, I haven't posted in awhile.

 

Concerning dating of the EN and PF marks, 1992 sounds right for the EN mark but not the PF mark. I did not start seeing the PF mark until the introduction of the "new style" pens in 1997.

 

Mark

 

PF = Pretty Feet?

 

Right now, Mark, that makes as much sense as any other explanation. By the way, with regard to your M800 nib and your concern, I would ink it, see how it writes. What you see as a flaw is most common and not a defect, but a mark of hand manufacture.

[elsewhere]

This answers my question I posted today. Thanks!

 

I asked the same question and was told that only the M1000 is made by Bock and that they will begin producing that for themselves shortly, too.

 

Didn't Pelikan send their nib production to Bock quite a while ago? Have they taken it back in-house?

 

[Jimmy]

Reading this old thread, about the 1000th discussion on the PF mark, I'm surprised that nobody noticed that some other brands can also have a PF mark on their nibs. I have in mind a Sheaffer Imperial, 23k gold electroplated nib, pen bought in France in the 90's stamped with a PF mark. Maybe could one infer from that PF is not a Pelikan mark.

 

Or that some Sheaffer nibs could have been made by Pelikan. :-)

 

Jimmy

Edited May 30, 2009 by Jimmy

[Garageboy]

So is there a way to figure out which is a NEW and improved Pelikan nib?

[kareth]

has PELIKAN started mfg Italic nibs?

[georges zaslavsky]

pf means pelikan feder

[1000km]

We don't know for certain what 'PF' designates. The most likely explanation is that it is a customs hallmark. In any case, there is no noticable difference in the performance of PF vs non-PF nibs.

 

pf means pelikan feder

Edited March 2, 2011 by 1000km

[kareth]

do they have italic nibs?

[snowblink]

do they have italic nibs?

 

Yes, although I think you have to buy them with a body at the moment.