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Some Parker ‘Flighters’ - Jotter, Vector, 45, 25, Frontier, Urban
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L-R: 2004 Parker Jotter made in UK: 2019 Parker Vector made in India by Luxor; 1970s Parker 45 made in England; 1979 Parker 25 made in England 2015; Parker Frontier made in India by Luxor; 2015 Parker Urban made in France. The converter that is above all the pens in the photo is of the type that came with the original 45 - and you need to know that it will fit in to ONLY the 45! It is too girthy/‘fat’ to fit in to any of these other pens, or any Parker pens that were designed after 1980.
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I’m relatively new to fountain pens, so my budget isn’t that big yet. That being said, I have bought a Waterman Allure, Lamy Safari and Wordsworth and Black Primori. They’re all very nice to use, smooth ink flow, not much scratch etc., but I’m looking to expand my collection. The pens I’m considering right now are the Parker Jotter, Vector and Urban, as they’re all quite cheap and in my price range. What are your opinions on these pens? Which one should I get? (For reference, my budget is around $50 AUD)
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Top to bottom: Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ BP This branded pen (along with a matching notepad) was given to my father by a sales-rep from British Steel some time in the 1980s. Its date-code is ‘TC’, so it was made in Q2 of 1985. Parker Vector RB in black plastic This pen has the date code ‘TI’, meaning Q3 of 1985. Note that on this pen there is no PARKER logo on its cap underneath its clip. That space has been left blank, in a similar way that the equivalent space was treated on a 1970s Parker 75. The broad PARKER logo & broad haloed-arrow logo are on the back of the cap, above the legend ‘MADE IN U.K.’ (including full stops), which is above the date code. Parker Vector FP in black plastic This pen has the date code ‘IIII’, corresponding to Q1 of 1994. Its cap has the narrow haloed-arrow logo and PARKER stamp underneath its clip. On the back of the cap are stamped ‘MADE IN UK’ (without full stops), and the date code. It is the first FP that I ever bought, so its steel nib is of course an ‘M’. Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ FP I bought this pen in 2019. I bought it because it is all-steel (apart from its feed) and therefore ‘robust’, and because it is inexpensive. It is therefore very well suited for use ‘on-site’, and/or in back-street pubs. It was made under license by Luxor in India. Its date code is I-IIN. The ‘I’ is for India, and the ‘IIN’ is for Q2 of 2019. It has a ‘F’ nib. The grip-sections are interchangeable between the different bodies, so I now effectively have four Vector FPs.
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Top to bottom: Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ BP This branded pen (along with a matching notepad) was given to my father by a sales-rep from British Steel some time in the 1980s. Its date-code is ‘TC’, so it was made in Q2 of 1985. Parker Vector RB in black plastic This pen has the date code ‘TI’, meaning Q3 of 1985. I bought this pen in my home town’s branch of Woolworths. I bought it to replace my ‘RB-1’ in maroon/burgundy (which I had bought in the same store just over one year previously). I had loved that pen, but when I was replacing its refill I over-tightened its plastic barrel on the threads of its all-steel grip-section, and the plastic cracked and broke, rendering my pen ‘unserviceable’ 😢 I remember being surprised by the fact that its name had been changed to ‘Vector’, and by the changed length of the cap and the grip-section. And disappointed that Woolworths didn’t have any maroon/burgundy ones in stock, and so I had to settle for boring black. I didn’t want to break this pen, so I ‘babied it’ for many years, including managing to do so all the way through my undergraduate university course 😮 In about 2016 I was replacing its refill and made the same Schoolboy Error that I made with the RB-1 I have glued this pen’s body back together. Note that on this pen there is no PARKER logo on its cap underneath its clip. That space has been left blank, like on a 1970s Parker 75. The broad PARKER logo & broad haloed-arrow logo are on the back of the cap, above the legend ‘MADE IN U.K.’ (including full stops), which is above the date code. Parker Vector FP in black plastic This pen has the date code ‘IIII’, corresponding to Q1 of 1994. Its cap has the narrow haloed-arrow logo and PARKER stamp underneath its clip. On the back of the cap are stamped ‘MADE IN UK’ (without full stops), and the date code. It is the first fountain pen that I ever bought. I decided that I wanted to buy a fountain pen (i.e. a pen for ‘grown-ups’), and went in to the city centre to have a look around the large branch of WH Smiths there. As a well-trained swallower of Marketing, I was only ever going to buy a Parker, and so only had to choose which model I wanted to buy. I toyed with the idea of buying a 45 Flighter, but I disliked its yellow-gold-plated clip, so I eventually settled on this cheap black plastic Vector, not least because it matched my black plastic Vector RB. Its steel nib is of course an ‘M’. Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ FP I bought this pen in 2019. I bought it because it is (apart from its feed) all-steel, and therefore ‘robust’; and because it is inexpensive. It is therefore very well suited for use ‘on-site’, and/or in back-street pubs. It was made under license by Luxor in India. Its date code is I-IIN. The ‘I’ is for India, and the ‘IIN’ is for Q2 of 2019. It has a ‘F’ nib. The grip-sections are interchangeable between the different bodies, so I now effectively have four Vector FPs. I note that it is designed to look like a ‘negative image’ of the black plastic Vector. The black Vector has steel-coloured barrel-end, whereas this steel Vector has a black plastic cap-top and barrel-end.
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This picture is to show the differences between the tops of my Vectors’ caps. L-R Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ FP Made by Luxor in India in 2019. The oval depression in its cap is filled with black plastic, to match the black plastic trim on the cap, and that at the distal end of the ’Flighter’ barrel. Parker Vector FP in black plastic This pen was made in Newhaven in 1994. The oval depression in this pen’s cap’s top is decorated with what looks like a piece of white cardboard/paper. This enables one to rapidly distinguish the fact that this is the Vector FP from the next two Vectors (RB & BP) without having to remove the pens from one’s pocket. Parker Vector RB in black plastic This is another Newhaven pen, but dates from 1985. Note that the insert visible inside the oval on this pen’s cap’s top is made of shiny ‘white metal’ (steel?). Parker Vector ‘Flighter’ BP This pen was also made in Newhaven in 1985. Its cap-decoration appears to be made of brass. Or, at least, it is ‘brass-coloured’.
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My brother gave me a stainless steel Parker Vector he found a few years ago with a spare nib, pictured. Unfortunately, no cap, and no luck finding any sellers on eBay. Newell-Rubbermaid customer service have also proved somewhat less than satisfactory... no spare parts, no warranty (tbh it looks like a 20 year old model, from comparing the nib with my others). A far cry from Cross, who offered to service my pens (still haven't got the courage to send them in by post yet). I could always cannibalise from one of my other pens, but that hurts. Any of you know where I could potentially get my hands on a replacement lid to make this pen usable? Would Parker 15/Jotter/Arrow FP lids also fit on a Vector? (I tested an Arrow rollerball lid as not fitting on a Vector)
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Does anyone know the size of the nib & feed in mm? I was wondering about using the nib in a Wality.
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Hi, during the Great Viral Panic, I have been spending far more time on the ‘bay than usual. Yaaarrrr! And I have seen that one can nowadays even buy fakes/‘replicas’/knock-offs of the Vector If you haven’t seen them, here is a link to a UK vendor who is selling the knock-offs in bulk, under several listings. Seems legit... I hate the fakers, and I hate the vendors of fakes. I mean, this guy for instance could just import genuine (made under licence by Luxor) Vectors in bulk from India, put on a 100% mark-up, and sell those in the UK - and in the process make himself a lot of money that I wouldn’t begrudge him at all. Other UK sellers are doing just that. But no. He’s selling the knock-offs. If you are feeling Very Bored whilst at home during lockdown, and are in need of a way to try to kill time (when it just won’t die), you could, like me, waste away the long empty hours by playing the futile game of whack-a-mole that is reporting fake items to eBay. I suspect that the auction site will do nothing at all about the fakes that we report, but it is at least something to do during lockdown. I hope that y’all stay well, stay safe, and don’t get fooled in to buying knock-off pens, converters, cartridges, inks, etc. Cheers, M.
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Black Friday Deals Parker Vector Red Fountain Pens Only $6 https://www.pensandpencils.net/collections/parker-vector/products/parker-vector-fountain-pen-red-fine-nib-made-in-france Free Shipping on Orders over $20 In The USA
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I recently got an email from Jetpens announcing the reintroduction of the Vector line, now manufactured in France and while browsing Parker's website, I saw a banner listing a new Jotter FP being launched! Is this the beginning of something?
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I have a rather stupid question to ask. When you refer to a nib being a nail, do you mean that the nib is rigid, thick and inflexible as the lower end Parker nibs (e.g. vector)?
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So I ordered Parker Vector, not because I was expecting it to be any good, on the contrary, I hoped it to be at least meh so I can work on my nib adjusting skills. So it was and so I did. After going through few different micro mesh nail files it became a fairly sexy writing thing - very defined lines, definitely thinner than medium, not too wet but far from dry (Souten shades nicely), and most of all it's really quite smooth with less feedback. In the end it's too small and thin to be comfortable for me so I'll be giving it away Apologies for super bad quality photo
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I'm trying for the moment to focus my pen purchases so I don't break the bank. One of my interests has been in replacing a Place Vendome that disappeared with something I like as well or nearly as well. From the pens I've tried, I seem to like light slender pens. I have a few Vectors/Rialtos now that I'm comparing. Well, one actually can't be compared yet because it arrived leaking like crazy. I don't know if that's the pen or the cartridge. It seems to have been shipped with a full cartridge, which was sweet of the seller but which might not have been the best idea. I rinsed that one out and ordered a converter for it. I got that one because it was made in the UK. The other two I'm using right now are a used blue Vector made in the US and a new metal Vector I bought new off Amazon, for comparison. No country listed on that one; I'm guessing China. The metal is definitely a fine nib. I think the blue is as well. Both are using converters--the metal is using the converter it came with; the blue is using an old converter I had lying around. Both are filled with the exact same ink, from the same bottle. Here's the problem, which I first thought was the paper (which is another issue; I clearly need different paper but not sure what kind yet). When I wrote with the metal pen today, the ink created a wider line than it did on some paper I was using yesterday. The ink really sinks into the paper and spreads in an almost smearish way. So I thought, okay that's the paper, but let's try the blue pen anyway. The blue writes fine on the paper. Still sinks in enough to make the back side of the paper not usable, but doesn't smear or anything like that. Does anyone know what the problem with the metal pen might be? Cheaper nib? If so, is the solution to look for older nibs on ebay and replace it? (I know; I could just buy another pen, but I do want to know what's wrong with this one.) If the problem is just that the entire new pen line is so much more cheaply made that it's not worth using, I'd like to know that as well. Thanks, Tery
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Hi all! Bit of a dilemma. Being the budding fountain pen newbie that I am; this'll probably seem a bit sillly but; The end of a quink cartridge (the bit you pierce to allow ink flow) has seperated from the well of the cartridge and has lodged itself in my nib. Any ideas on how to remove it? Thanks in advance Regard, J
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A few days ago I did the first inking of my pen with a colour other than black. After throughly cleaning the converter on my Parker Vector pen -following guidance from the folks at gouletpens.com- I proceeded to fill it up with Waterman Tender Purple ink. All went good during the first few minutes, but after that the pen has slowly developed a tendency to skip from time to time. This didn't happened before the ink change (I was using Parker Quink black). Is this a normal occurrence or am I doing something wrong? Also, I'm planning to buy other ink brands for use with this and my other pen (Lamy Safari), should I take any precautions regarding using different brands on the same pens? Thanks!
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Hello, I recently decided to work on my penmanship and bought the inexpensive Parker Vector, with which I am thus far pleased. I do not care for the ink accompanying the pen and would love a recommendation on another ink that is ... black, opaque, thick, less watery, quick drying, waterproof. I'm sure you all have your preferences and certainly know exactly what would work for me, so please, if you would, share. Thanks in advance.
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Hello pen experts, I picked up a Vector rollerball and what appears to be a Vector Mode fountain pen off the local antiques market this morning for £5 total (yay)- not a lot of info out there on the Mode apart from parkerpens.net, and I'm not totally clear on which Mode it is, if you see what I mean. http://25.media.tumblr.com/15f889fd74d9e81d6468d48ef10b3af7/tumblr_mvj8ll5Uxh1s06cxto1_1280.jpg Not in the best of shape, bless it. Anyway, the website talks about this finish being introduced as a rollerball and I was just curious about whether this is a Mode which IS a fountain pen, or whether it's been frankensteined, so to speak. Future versions of the Mode on the website are mentioned as either different finishes or under a different name, so I don't know if this is a later version or not. I just wanna know what I got here, haha. Not overly keen on the white rollerball, that one might get sold if there's a collector out there who wants a "well-loved" pen
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Another update, this time the Vector chapter: http://parkercollector.com/vector.html My scanner acted up, so the images are kind of poor but I'm working on that. As always, feel free to comment, correct and criticise! /Tony http://parkercollector.com/bilder_pennor/vector/blacknwhites-600.png