I realize this is probably an esoteric subject, but I was wondering if anyone knew of good online Teeline shorthand resources or classes that they have used, or any tricks they've used for learning Teeline? I'm just starting out with Teeline. In the states, Gregg is more common but I just can't master the loops and can't read it after I wrote it - far better luck with Teeline, but my speed is atrocious. Maybe that's ok since I'm just starting. I've been using the Teeline Gold Coursebook and Teeline Shorthand Made Simple books. For what it's worth I've been using Fine to Extra Fine nibs for the shorthand, and just got a needlepoint from Franklin Christoph at the Philly Pen Show... I find that the broader nibs don't work so well, as the subtle differences between letters might be masked... a "S" might just appear as a blob - same for "A" or "E" or "I". One weakness I know I have is a tendency to write small and use section or narrow rule - that may be my worst enemy here. Whatever help you can provide is appreciated!