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Recently I've started thinking about getting into real calligraphy (not just messing around with my Noodler's Ahab), so I went ahead and ordered a Speedball oblique holder just to see if this style suits me...and what do you know, it does! The only problem I have is that I can't insert my currently favorite nib (the Leonardt Steno) in the holder so that the point aligns with the center of the shaft. I started researching and found out that I need an adjustable holder, with a metal flange... Now comes the problem, I really like both the Century and the Zanerian holders, and can't decide which to buy. And to complicate things further, the Zanerian also comes in a shorter version (that long shaft looks pretty thin and fragile?!), and the Century in a thicker version... And then there's the Hourglass Adjustable, with the fixed flange and adjustable by screw. I should mention that I do find the Speedball's grip to be a bit thin. Any advice will be helpful! Thank you! Edit: And then there's the very straightforward, minimalistic (= form follows function), Paper and Ink Arts Adjustable holder (PIA) http://www.paperinkarts.com/piaobl---ros.html ...I'm really not interested in ornament, I just want a holder that's versatile and comfortable to use