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Well now, I fancy this brand spanking new forum may explain why I was having to use Google's cached pages to find info on Swan numbering this morning! Not that it did me much good, for here I am hoping for some expert clarification on what I have here. As a picture tells etc etc, on with the pixels: 128mm (5ins) capped, 117mm (4 5/8in) uncapped, maximum barrel diameter of 12.5mm (1/2in) I apologise unreservedly for the dust; my DIY light box has lain dormant for longer than I realised - and apparently in the interim I've forgotten how to focus. But you get the gist, I hope. Somewhere or other I came across the barrel imprint with the Swan on the left as being a "type A" and thus earlier...? Everwhere, bar Marshall and Oldfield in Pen Repair, seem to say I should be looking at a metal button/insert/doodah with a Swan at the top of the cap. So again, earlier? I confess it was the No. 4 Eternal nib I went for - stiff as a board, but broad. Yum. Other possible pertinent facts are "Swan" L4 on the feed (as you can't see...) and on the section, and "Swan" on the cap. No model number anywhere. I have fully gathered that Swan numbering is not an exact science, but have I hit the correctly numbered coconut? Or no cigar? Failing that, how do I go about working out what size necked sac I need if it isn't a 1060...? (I gather a #21 x 2 13/16 is the size if it is) Thank you for your time and any observations, pens and cobs (and cygnets). Cheers, Al