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I really wanted to like this ink, but it didn't sing for me. Before writing I had to smudge the ink to make sure it was the right ink. That's when you have too many pens inked But as you will see, in scans it's clearly a brownish/ reddish ink and looks very elegant. The cleaning was a bit of pain. I was really disappointed when I had smudging during the water test. That's not something I was expecting from a document ink. I got my sample from Goulet's, but couldn't find this ink on De Atramentis's website. Maybe it's discontinued or maybe renamed? 😛 Let's start with the chroma: Writing samples: It seems I forgot to write with a sample with Japanese Ef and forgot to crop the first image. Ah well, nobody's perfect Maybe @LizEF will do a review in 2025 😜 Midori Very well behaved on Hammermill... Photo (TR 68gr) Comparison: Water test: (quelle horreur!) And finally an artwork, entitled fall. The red ink, is De Atramentis Document Red with a bit Black Red mixed in, · Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Stub, Lamy Safari (EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Nib · What I liked: I wasn’t enamored with the colour but found it enjoyable with a broad nib. · What I did not like: Not an interesting colour with finer nibs, might as well stick with black. Not 100 percent waterproof. · What some might not like: The same as above and cleaning. · Shading: With M/B nibs. · Ghosting: No. · Bleed through: No. · Flow Rate: Wet · Lubrication: Lower than average. · Nib Dry-out: Didn’t notice. · Start-up: No. · Saturation: Saturated. · Shading Potential: Only with M/B nibs. · Sheen: No. · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice. · Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice. · Staining (pen): No. · Clogging: No. · Cleaning: I didn’t have the patience to soak it overnight in water and went the easy way, with a cleaning solution. · Water resistance: Good. I was surprised that some of the ink came off. · Availability: 45 ml bottles. Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier