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Büroservice Bergmann Rotfliessende Eisengallustinte (Red flowing Iron gall)
yazeh posted a topic in Ink Reviews
My original review was deleted thanks to the server problem. So, I'm reposting it. Another great ink for Iron gall ink lovers. The name is quite a mouthful. Thanks to @christof for introducing them to me. They are made in Germany and exclusively sold from this site, by the maker, Thomas Bergmann. https://www.kalligraphie-shop.com/ep...roducts/32000T They come in 2 colours: red and blue. Both inks are water resistant. The blue one is slightly more. The price, plus shipping to Canada for two bottles was 16€. That's 8€ a bottle. The bottles look a lot like De Atramentis', bur smaller. As you can see the labels are very elegant, though not very clear. I can discern: the name: Büroservice Bergmann Iron gall ink 30 ml/ 1 fl oz. I hope some of our German speaking members can translate the surrounding text: Note the beautiful red dye: Now about the red IG ink. It's a wet ink, slightly dry, i.e, it's not lubricated like Doyou Chroma: The ink write a bright red, which in time darkens in a gorgeous dark burgundy Writing samples Tomoe River 68 gr: (Fine/ Flex/Medium/ Fude/ Broad) Midori Rhodia: Apica: This is by no means waterproof but it is quite water resistant, depending paper, how long the text has been written: Mnemosyne paper: (immediately after drying) Waiting after two days: (before /after) Very absorbent cheap paper: 2 days after - Not so good enveloppe better I have no ink close to this ink, while the Kala looks similar in the scan, it's more of a purple/brown, while BN is Dark burgundy and finally, I'll leave you with an artwork, I did part of Inktober. The top background is the IG blue which has turned black, the middle is the IG red and the bottom is Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10. The paper is a Canson watercolour paper. · Pens used: : Noodler’s Ahab /Jinhao 450 Medium & Fude / Lamy Safari Broad · Shading: Lovely · Ghosting: On thin/cheap paper, maybe · Bleed through: I doubt it. · Flow Rate: Wet · Lubrication: Quite good for an IG · Nib Dry-out: No. · Start-up: Not noticed. But it could be a bit sluggish with dry pens like Safari. It would be best in a well sealed pen. · Saturation: Nicely saturated… · Shading Potential: Really good. · Sheen: None · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Not noticed · Nib Creep / “Crud”: No · Staining (pen): No, · Clogging: Nope. · Water resistance: Good. The red component washes away depending paper and time. See images. · Availability: 1 oz/ 30 ml bottle Comments appreciated....- 12 replies
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Büroservice Bergmann Blaufliessende Eisengallustinte (blue flowing iron gall)
yazeh posted a topic in Ink Reviews
The name is a mouthful. I discovered this ink thanks @christof. Another good ink for Iron gall ink lovers. They are made in Germany and exclusively sold by the maker Thomas Bergmann. https://www.kalligraphie-shop.com/ep...roducts/32000T They come in 2 colours: red and blue in De Atramentis type bottles. This is an almost black ink, in the true IG sense. If you’ve written with dip pen IG inks (Like Bach’s which turns into a glossy black), this one comes close, depending on the amount of ink concentration. Here is a comparaison with two other famous IGs. It has an interesting chroma While I enjoyed using it, I prefer the Red to this. Mostly because it has not the waterproofness of Essri (and I don't mean LizEf's endearing Snek . If you’re looking for a perfect waterproof ink, go for the big three Essri, Akkerman IG, or Diamine Registrars ( I haven’t tried KWZ blue black/ and Hero 232, so I can't comment on that). I rubbed the sample text (on the cheap paper), with a wet Q-tip. This was after 24 hours. Essri didn't budge. The blue component of Bergmann ink smudged. I also did the Q-tip test on a week old text on Tomoe River paper, the blue component smudged. Writing samples: TR 68gr Midori Rhodia Apica This I did with reverse medium Jinhao, which is close to an Ef, I hope (Paper is Rhodia) Field Notes (Not for Fps but the ink behaved flawlessly) This was done on atrocious, cheap, very thin, absorbent paper. Ink turned instantly black. While there seems to be ghosting and bleed through, it doesn't look as bad as the scan Here is a little fun sketch I did for Inktober on a Fabiano sketch pad: The background is all done with the IG ink. • Pens used: : Jinhao 450 (Medium/fude) /Jinhao X159 – F / Conway Stewart 330/ Pilot Kakuna • Shading: Yes • Ghosting: Only on cheap paper. It didn't ghost on Field Notes, an unfriendly FP paper. • Bleed through: No • Flow Rate: Wet • Lubrication: Quite good for an IG • Nib Dry-out: On the badly sealed X159 yes. • Start-up: On the badly sealed X159 yes. • Saturation: Nicely saturated… • Shading Potential: The ink turn almost black. Butshades • Sheen: None • Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Not noticed • Nib Creep / “Crud”: No • Staining (pen): No, • Clogging: Nope. • Water resistance: Good. But not as good as Essri. • Availability: 1 oz/ 30 ml bottles Comments appreciated!- 8 replies
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