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Hi All! I am a student who wrote with the same FP for many years. However, I wanted something new, so I decided to trade pens so that I could afford it and switch pens more often. I recently bought two Montblancs 144s. The price was good, but I have a few questions regarding the age, nib size and serial number. 1. How can I determen how old my pen is, even if there is no serial number. 2. I want to clean the pen a bit better, but I am not sure how to remove the nib. There is also not a good Youtube video that shows me that. Any ideas? 3. My pen has no serial number. I don't directly suspect the pen to be fake, but I am also not sure what the reason could be and if it's normal. Attached some pics for reference and age determination. Thank you all very much for your help in advance!
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I've recently found this pen in an old drawer, and by doing my research on this forum I've learned it is a 144 from the early 80's (monotone gold nib, gold trim near nib, resin threads, ebonite smooth feed, etc..) . However, there's a little detail in my pen that no one seems to mention, so it makes me doubt the authenticity of the pen. The barrel is not completly hollow, it is only until you reach the gold trim area, where it just becomes (apparently) solid. This makes it so that it is impossible to fit anything slightly bigger than a small cartridge. The pen writes very well and all the other details match the stuff I read here 100%. I'd appreciate any help on this matter. Thank you in advance. Edit: I should mention that if I put the phone light through the pen cap, it glows red, so the pen is almost surely genuine, right?
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Sharing this for reference. Excellent service once again at Montblanc. In 2019 I sent in my 147 for repair. This time I sent off my black 144 directly to the MB Repair center in Fort Worth, Texas asking them to replace the gold section ring that had corroded and to clean the nib and feed. Timeline: February 3, 2021= FedEx pen from Houston February 4= received by MB February 8= received letter with service details and cost February 23= FedEx out from MB February 24= I received pen Cost was $69.00 for Service Flat Rate 1 plus Shipping $15.00 and no cost for the “Forepart”. They replaced the feed and the section looks new. Here is a pic of the Old feed. Here is the new section with new feed. Looks like they cleaned the pen and polished the nib as well. Very pleased with the service. Hope this information helps if you are thinking of sending in a pen for repair. It’s easy and relatively quick. Repair Center address MBNA 15100 TRINITY BLVD STE 300 FORT WORTH, TX, 76155-2729 Cheers, Ozzy
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I’ve been using all week at work my Burgundy Classique (144R) with 18K nib. I have been using the piston converter to fill with ink. The older threaded converters that say Montblanc ink only. I notice that when I filled the converter (attached to nib) from the bottle that I got a bunch of bubbles, which was odd, but it filled up enough so into my pocket it went. Fast forward to today Friday, I needed a little more ink and when I opened the pen there was ink down the converter and in the barrel. After cleaning up the mess I checked the converter and found that it was not pulling a vacuum. With a magnifying glass I saw a crack on the threads. Luckily I have 4 new MB converters, 3 of the older ones with the “MB ink only” and a new one from MB that now no longer has the ink words on the side. I inked up the new old one with a syringe this time and when I wiped of the threads to make sure there is no ink it soaked the paper towel. So I dump the ink and as I was cleaning the converter it breaks (see pic). I then fill the 3rd and last of the old type converters and screw into pen. I could not see any cracks under magnification so we will see if it holds up. Luckily I still have a brand new (no words) converter in reserve. Seeng if anyone else has had this issue. Also, this may help warn someone as well. I really thought it was leaking from the section some how and by passing the converter. I was actually starting to send the pen into MB before I checked the converter.
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hello greetings from Finland. I call me mustekyna (fountain pen in finnish!) I have a problem with my Montblanc 144 I bought a Montblanc from Germany (a used one) and noticed that the part in the pen end (marked yellow) has a crack. So I would need this part to be changed. Then my daily friend would be in excellent condition. I asked for a price for this change and it was 200 € and I would need to send my fountain pen to Denmark. My pen is in wonderful condition and wrotes lovely and costed 240 €. Am I able to change the end part? How do you call this part, in picture painted yellow?. Do you think I could find an old spare part, this part, somewhere. best regards mustekyna
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Dear friends I have not yet found a spare for my Montblanc Meisterstück 144. I am looking for the blind cap for my pen. The blind cap (Pakman helped me with the exact word) has now a crack and it disturbs me and it can go to parts some day, although i can very well write with it. Is this blind cap on the bottom end of the pen ,something which has thread? Do you think i will be able to change it myself. (I am not a handyman!). Is it very easy or should there be a specialist for the work.?Do we have in Europe spares somewhere- do you know? I did not find in ebay. this spare. Must I buy a whole vintage pen? Has someone instructions how this part is changed? Thank you in advance for your help. br Mustekyna
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Hi all. I had an unfortunate mishap with my Montblanc 144 where it snapped near the thread end of the section. The feed didn't appear damaged, so I got a donor section to replace it with, but the nib and feed seem pretty firmly set in the old section. I don't know the specific date of manufacture, but it's a 14k monotone nib with the style of feed pictured below (not my pen, image from Peyton Street Pens). Are there any tips/tutorials for removing the old nib and feed? Or is this a job best left to a professional (if so, I'm open to recommendations)? Thanks much!
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Help With Purchasing A Consigned Montblanc
DoctorV0106 posted a topic in Fountain & Dip Pens - First Stop
Hi all, Ive been using fountain pens for a while, but fairly new to Montblanc pens. Im thinking about purchasing a consigned pen from what seems like a reputable seller. Has anyone seen this particular pen before, or know if there are any dead giveaways on its authenticity, and what might be a fair price. It seems to be a 144 Doué from what I can tell, but any help would be me much appreciated. Thanks! V- 3 replies
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Don't tell the wife, but I just bought a Meisterstuck 144 Bordeaux Fountain Pen. Could not help my self. I had been tracking a few on eBay to see what they sold for when a buy it now 144R appeared. The buy it not was in line to what the auctions had gone for in the past and it eliminated the possible bidding war. I should have it by mid week. My first Montblanc was a Bordeaux ballpoint so I lean more to that color. What I really like is that it's a broad nib. First rule about pen collecting "you don't talk about pen collecting to the wife" Second rule about pen collecting "you DON'T TALK ABOUT PEN COLLECTING to the wife" At least not about every purchase. Cheers, Ozzy
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Hello I am new to this forum and a new user to fountain pens... I have this pen which I assume is a fake Montblanc 144 unless the more knowledgeable members of this forum may think it is possible authentic. I would appreciate any thoughts, opinions based on the pictures I have attached Even if it is a fake am I correct in the model number? Thank you
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Montblane 144 Sterling Doue (Maybe Frankenpen) & Ebonite Feed Qestions
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I was recently gifted from a good friend a 144 fountain pen. It's a sterling doué (black resin body, sterling cap). I am confident that all parts are authentic Montblanc, but I suspect that I have an early 1980's 144 body (ebonite feed, all gold 14k nib, plastic threads in the section) possibly mated to a later sterling doué cap from either a 144 fountain pen or a 163 rollerball. The pen writes exceptionally well following a flush and I'm delighted with it, but am considering sending it in for service to the Montblanc center in Ft. Worth (I'm USA based and nowhere near a boutique) to have the corroded section ring replaced. I have no other issues with the pen. I have several questions, any my searches of prior posts do not give definitive answers for this pen: 1. How would I tell if the sterling cap is from a 144 fountain pen or a 163 rollerball? The cap fits well, but, when capped makes the pen about 2mm shorter than a known genuine original 163 rollerball from 1991 (metal section threads as opposed to this fountain pen with the older plastic section threads). The cap swaps between my 163 rollerball just fine, but when swapped the rollerball becomes 2mm shorter... Does this matter? 2. The section trim ring (as is commonly the case) is corroded. If I send the pen to the Ft. Worth repair center with the doué cap for repair of the corroded section trim, will they charge more since it had a sterling cap or possibly reject the repair as the cap might not be original? 3. The nib is perfect, but is the common M and the old monocolor 14k variety. If I ask for a nib swap to a BB (or something wider than the M) will I be hit with a big bill (e.g. >USS$250)? 4. Will the replacement nib, if I agree to the swap, be a monocolor nib, or the newer bi-color? 5. On this model, is my current ebonite feed considered superior? Why? 6. If I ask for a nib swap (depending on the cost) will they install it on my existing ebonite feed? 7. If I send it in for replacement of the corroded trim ring without a nib swap, will I lose my ebonite feed? 8. If they are going to replace the whole section and set my existing nib (or a replacement) on a new feed, can I request that they return my ebonite feed? 9. If the MB Service Center in Ft. Worth replaces the section and sets either my nib or a replacement broader nib on a new plastic feed and they agree to return my old undamaged ebonite feed to me, is the ebonite feed compatible with the new section and could be reinstalled and reset into the new section by a competent repair person (see Question 4 about if there is any advantage to having the ebonite feed on a 144)? Would this be advised and any appreciable improvement? 10. I lack a converter. Depending on if the section is replaced, are either older friction fit or newer screw in authentic Montblanc converters readily available? Will the service center provide, as part of the service a converter? 11. Approximately what years was the sterling doué 144 model (black resin body, sterling cap) available for sale? Any idea as to the MSRP? Thank you to the experts for your responses to these detailed and somewhat obscure questions. Warm regards, vieuxcarre New Orleans, LA -
Hi, Can someone explain to me the difference between an italic and an oblique nib?
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I want to repair a Czar Nicolai (Montblanc), the 144 version with converter. The issue is that it writes - almost excessively wetly - then slowly dries out to a complete stop. I've tried cleaning, soaking, wet inks, dry inks, a different converter and even shimming. Is there anything else I should try before resorting to MB to replace the feed and possibly the nib also and /or section? I have a feeling that it's a faulty section but can't figure out why it can run so wet and suddenly dry up. It's not ink tension in the converter. I suspect that the little section that goes up into the converter has a hole that is a touch too small to allow proper ink flow. Anyways, I hope someone can advise as returning to MB for adjustment usually means simply replacing all the parts with new and the nib has a nice bounce so I don't especially want that replaced with a new, firm 144 nib.
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I recently purchased a new Montblanc 11738 fountain pen without a box or any papers. As far as I know and it looks, it is a 144SP sterling silver. What do you think about this pen? Although it's not a piston filler and being a little small in size, it seems to fit well in my hand when posted. I also can't see any differences from a 145 classic other than lacking threads on the barrel. Any info and comments deeply appreciated
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I'm hoping to purchase a pre-owned Montblanc fountain pen for my mother as a Christmas gift. I've been doing some light research since yesterday, but this is a topic I know very little about. It should be noted that she also isn't a collector by any means, and I think also isn't particularly knowledgable about pens. But I noticed her admiring someone else's Montblanc a few weeks ago, and I think it would make a neat gift. Because of that, she's not likely to be nit-picky about smaller details, and an overall nice feel is what's most important. I'd like to stay under $200 if possible. Based on preliminary research, it seems like a pre-owned 144 might be my best bet. I'm reluctant to buy one from eBay because I know I would have a difficult time spotting a fake (as would she, but obviously I want to get her the real thing anyway). I found a 1998 144 online for $189, which seems like my most promising lead at the moment. I'd love to hear any thoughts or suggestions on this. Thank you!
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Looking For Advice On A Gift Idea. Please Help.
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I already posted in the Montblanc forum, but I want to ask this question here as well because I figure this section probably gets more traffic. I'm hoping to purchase a pre-owned Montblanc fountain pen for my mother as a Christmas gift. I've been doing some light research since yesterday, but this is a topic I know very little about. It should be noted that she also isn't a collector by any means, and I think also isn't particularly knowledgable about pens. But I noticed her admiring someone else's Montblanc a few weeks ago, and I think it would make a neat gift. Because of that, she's not likely to be nit-picky about smaller details, and an overall nice feel is what's most important. I'd like to stay under $200 if possible. Based on preliminary research, it seems like a pre-owned 144 might be my best bet. I'm reluctant to buy one from eBay because I know I would have a difficult time spotting a fake (as would she, but obviously I want to get her the real thing anyway). I found a 1998 144 online for $189, which seems like my most promising lead at the moment. I'd love to hear any thoughts or suggestions on this. Thank you! Note: I realize that many people might be likely to suggest other, more economical brands. I fully understand and am aware of the reasoning. I am looking for a Montblanc specifically though, as that's the brand I overheard her talking about/admiring. -
Good afternoon, I am new at forum and (at the moment) also to the Mont Blanc fountain pens. I got option to purchase the fountain pen, but couldn’t match positive identifying and authentication of it. Could you please help me about it? What there should be; MB 146, dating around 2000, unused. The basic concerns are about: BoxNib colourNib feedComparing at other forum topics; could it be also 144?Thank you.
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To report a bit on an experience: I'm a noob, less than 9 months since my first fountain pen. Like many noobs, I was intimidated by the broad nib and what the oblique broad meant. An oblique triple broad would be a preposterously fat tool. My handwriting in college was for equations, in medical school for furious notes. The electronic health record has largely obliterated any need for a written communication, but not quite. To my patients I hand write medication instructions from a pre-printed sheet. I have every excuse for sloppy handwriting: a C in 4th grade. An engineering undergraduate curriculum. A doctor. Yet it was my Grandma, recently deceased, who inspired in me improved handwriting. An article in last fall's Wall Street Journal advocated a simple Lamy before one splurged on an inconceivably expensive Sailor with gold nib for ~$400. Her correspondence in her last months exhibited more practiced, more beautiful handwriting despite the uneven strokes of geriatric motor control than my young nimble limbs could muster. I would like to say it was her handwriting that inspired me, her communication through the post more intimate than these electrons by beaten keyboard. Perhaps equally important was the need for change in so personal a technique as handwriting and signature in the resolution of divorce. The Lamy's nib: fine. Many fine nibs purchased before getting curious. A Montblanc Jules Verne, fine, ok, but what's this I hear about line variation? An Izumo with fine nib: too small! Better with a medium nib. A Nakaya music nib - a big, fat highlighter of a pen. I hated the music nib. In a fit of spending violating the Boy Scout's pledge to be "thrifty," I simultaneously bought a Montblanc Moon Pearl with XF nib (one foot still firmly in the fine camp) and a 90th 149 with B nib (one more toe in the land of the fat nib). The B nib I found similarly a big fat writer with none of the stubbish quality I'd heard of. So in a moment of inspiration I visited my Montblanc boutique on perhaps the last day of my 6 week exchange window and asked for the OBBB nib. OBB? No, O Triple B. Oh. We don't get many of those requests. On Penboard I found a 144 celluloid 1950s ski slope OBBB, and it is butter. It is divine. Line variation galore, sleek and slinky with the superb detail of a convex piston ring (too lazy now to find out if that's the right term). From a FPN'er I found a 75th Anniv 146 with BB nib. I'm finding I much prefer the oblique hold, still, I make do with the BB nib and far prefer it to its F and XF brethren. Four months after submission the boutique received the pen back. Reportedly, the first request for nib replacement to OBBB, it had to be special made, sent back to Hamburg. Free: no service charge, no nib charge, sent in in the waning twilight of the six-week window. Complimentary an ink fill and a test run on Montblanc paper. Sorry for the ink blobs all over your counter: I neglected to open the piston after filling to release a few drops. I'm not a surgeon. The 146 75th is a revelation of a MOP star. The yellowed 50s 144 has character. In comparison, what I perceive to be a painted white star on the 149 seems rather cheap. I'll post here and in another post (perhaps a part 2 to this post??) pictures, paper. I'm definitely an OBBB kind of guy. Pity, it's not a usual 146 grind, and it's fairly hard to find those OBBs. Still, one must have the fine nibs: bureaucratic forms allow for little expressive handwriting.
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I have just bought both a 144 classique fountain pen pop cap (engraved) and 145 classique/chopin? fountain pen(broken clip) and would like advice on removing the logo to swap cap barrel on 144 and put a new clip on 145. My wife has a 163 classique rollerball and the logo just unscrews quite easily, whereas my 162 legrand rollerball doesn't. Any advice for a newbie addict gratefully received!!!! Thanks :-)
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Dear members, I come back with a new task that was given to me lately. I had previously used this forum when I serviced an old Paker 51 by cleaning it completely, changing the ink sac and using new shellac to seal it. It turned out great and It became my everyday pen. Today I received from my Grand Pa, a beautiful Silver Montblanc Meisterstuck 144 that needs quite a bit of servicing. I would like to get your advice on the following points (I provided a few pictures so that you get an idea of the pen's current state): - I wanted to polish the silver, should I use a silver polishing cloth like this one (I read that advice on this forum) : http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2128708.htm ? Or will it damage the pen? what about the gold? - I would like to take off the numerous ink spots on the pen, how should I do this without damaging it? - I want to clean the Nib, feed and section (get rid of the dry ink), should I just flush it with water? If you have any other advice on what i should do before using it, please let me know Thank you very much!
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Hi everyone! I am new here and just acquired my first Montblanc. It is a Montblanc 144. I bought this pen on ebay and I was wondering if you guys thought it was real or not. The box shows made in West Germany and the gold sticker on the pen shows M W-Germany. However the clip shows Germany on it and the serial number is two letters followed by six numbers. The nib passes the magnet test. The threads on the barrel are brass, but the converter that came with the pen appears to be the old style push in type. I am attaching pictures for you guys to see. Does anyone know what year this pen may be from? Thanks for your help!
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Here's a glimpse of how hand crafted nibs of the same "tip" size can be so different from one another... Top to bottom: 149 BBB←, 146 BBB←, 144 BBB─ Close up 149 BBB, My least favorite 146 BBB, So far so good 144 BBB, The overkill It definitely wasn't easy finding three BBB in different models, but it was a fun trip. In essence, it's not the actually nib size that matters, but rather the size of the writing tip that does the talking-- or writing, whichever expression you prefer. Questions and comments are welcome! Bob
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Hi everybody ! I recently bought a montblanc 144 on ebay and I wanted to be sure It is a real one. The seller have a few positive reviews but not for selling pens. I paid 120 $ for it. I think it is genuine but I would like the confirmstion of you community experts ! -The nib passes the magnet test ( so it is likely solid gold but not 100% sure ) - THERE IS NO PIX ENGRAVEMENTS. -There is a serial number - it writes OK. - Came with a threaded converter - BROAD nib ( supposed to be ) - Two tone nib Here are the pictures :