Circa 1910: Rider Master Pen eye-dropper in mhr

[SAP]

Hi amigos, here one the last pen I bought. A big Rider Master pen in black and red mottled hard rubber. The J.G. Rider company was founded in 1905 and disappeared twenty years later. He made special eyedropper pens with a special clip on the cap that could be used to hook the feed out of the pen, allowing you to fill it with an eyedropper. The pen is in superb condition and its original fine nib, retipped by Greg Minuskin, writes very well. Enjoy it, gracias, Carlos SanchezAlamo

 

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Edited March 2, 2008 by SAP

[Tom Pike]

Carlos,

 

Thanks for sharing this exceptional example of an awesome pen. It's very fun to see the feed pulled out. Any chance we could see a photo of how the clip fits into the feed?

 

I do love clean RMHR...

 

 

Cheers,

Tom

[SAP]

Thanks Tom for your message. Enjoy it!! SanchezAlamo

 

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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3883/riderfeednibbj9.jpg

 

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[Tom Pike]

Carlos,

 

Thank you very much for taking the time to post these pictures. I've seen a lot of photos of Rider pens, but never close shots of this mechanism, nor of the square feed. What a great pen...

 

 

Cheers,

Tom

[hari317]

What a wonderful pen! Thanks for sharing. I was curious if repeated pulling out of the feed to fill the pen causes wear and tear leading to loose fit of the nib/feed in the section?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

 

[fatehbajwa]

What a wonderful pen! Thanks for sharing. I was curious if repeated pulling out of the feed to fill the pen causes wear and tear leading to loose fit of the nib/feed in the section?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

The same thought crossed my mind too.

[SAP]

Thanks Hari & Fateh for your message, no there is no wear on the nib or feed. In fact I take out the nib/feed with the fingers, not with the clip. Using the clip to take out the nib/feed is original but no very practical

Un saludo, Carlos SanchezAlamo

Edited March 5, 2008 by SAP

[Roger W.]

Carlos;

 

I'm hijacking your thread because your pics are so good!

 

You state that the company was founded in 1905 and I'm not sure what that is based on but, the corporate records from the State of Illinois find that the company was incorporated on July 3, 1907. Jay G. Rider had 50% of the stock ($12,500) of which $10,000 was paid for in 4 patents assigned to the corporation from Mr. Rider. The company was initially located at 127 W. State St. and filed its first annual report from 313 W. State St. By 1909 they file from the 308 Mead Building on S. Main St. No annual fillings are to be had until 1925 which state that the company is in Ann Arbor, Michigan ad that they were out of business. It was disolved as an Illinois corporation on January 14, 1927.

 

Roger W.

[Johnny Appleseed]

Carlos;

 

I'm hijacking your thread because your pics are so good!

 

You state that the company was founded in 1905 and I'm not sure what that is based on but, the corporate records from the State of Illinois find that the company was incorporated on July 3, 1907. Jay G. Rider had 50% of the stock ($12,500) of which $10,000 was paid for in 4 patents assigned to the corporation from Mr. Rider. The company was initially located at 127 W. State St. and filed its first annual report from 313 W. State St. By 1909 they file from the 308 Mead Building on S. Main St. No annual fillings are to be had until 1925 which state that the company is in Ann Arbor, Michigan ad that they were out of business. It was disolved as an Illinois corporation on January 14, 1927.

 

Roger W.

 

Not to pick nits, but the founding of a company and their incorporation are not necessarily the same thing. Many companies start out and are in business as sole proprieters prior to incorporation. Incorporation provides a great time-marked event for historians because it puts the company in the public record, but it is not an absolute indicator of when the company started (which I know you know, but just wanted to put out there).

 

It would still be useful to know the source of the 1905 date, to see if there is a documented record. Until then we can only say they existed in 1907.

 

None of which detracts from the fact that it is one beautiful pen and an important bit of pen history!

 

John

[Roger W.]

John;

 

Very valid point. Boston Safety is the same way, City of Boston has a 1908 date but we are pretty sure they were in business prior. Rider might not have been up and running as I see it, it was a slipshod operation that made some great looking pens. 1909 is the date of the clip patent that is strongly features in Corlos' pics but Jay leaves Rockford probably in 1910. He puts in for his first patent in June 1901 so sometime beween '01 and '07 he could have been in business before the incorporation. As far as the 1905 date I've not seen what Carlos' evidence is and have not found any other support for independently.

 

Roger W.

[georges zaslavsky]

nice pen indeed.

[shrujaya]

Hi...thats a wonderful and solid looking pen...and great looking pics too...is it a recent acquisition? When you have a mechanism like this, sometimes you are tempted to use it to demonstrate, and the pen becomes a demo pen...like some shopkeepers keep some pens exclusively for demo purposes, they wouldn't sell it for anything...ha ha ha...

 

Regards,

 

Jai

[markiv]

Wow - discovering this pen gave a jolt to my heart!

 

This is going to be one of my all time favorite pens - don't know if I will every lay my hands on one!

Perfect harmony of design and function.

 

Thank you very much for sharing this with us.

 

Wonder how difficult will it be to make a replica? - the feed and feed seat inside the section can pose some challenges.

 

This just made my day

[DrPJM1]

Excellent pics of a very interesting pen. Wonder if any of the doughboys carried one to the Great War...

[christof]

Thank you for showing us your very impressive pictures of an impressive pen! It's always a pleasure to see such high grade pictures. Just great, you are an artist!

[alvarez57]

Muy bonitas fotos Carlos! Very nice pen.

 

Miss seeing recent photos!