Vac Third Generation But "double Jewel".

[Lazard 20]

I recently added to my collection this curious 1942 "Long Major", azure blue pearl, that, being third generation, is "double jewel" ...

 

http://s11.postimg.org/j2uu3za3n/Long_Major_Lazard.jpg

... and I say "double jewel" because someone bother to carve a "jewel" in the blind cap:

 

http://s16.postimg.org/45pe85bet/Long_Major_double_jewel_Lazard.jpg

And that still more attractive with this transparent and colorless press button:

 

http://s28.postimg.org/6iqlzz1fx/Long_Major_double_jewel_transparent_Lazard.jpg

Edited December 29, 2014 by Lazard 20

[Ron Z]

Parker did it, not "someone."

 

Parker did make some pens with a "faux" jewel. It's usually black, not the color of the pen, but sometimes you end up with a bulls eye in it. The tassie was then pressed on, and I assume swaged in place. Nothing to back that up though other than experience. It's not common, but neither is it unusual to find the tassie missing.

[Lazard 20]

Parker did it, not "someone."

 

Parker did make some pens with a "faux" jewel. It's usually black, not the color of the pen, but sometimes you end up with a bulls eye in it. The tassie was then pressed on, and I assume swaged in place. Nothing to back that up though other than experience. It's not common, but neither is it unusual to find the tassie missing.

 

Thanks.

 

However I dont think so. So that you can reconsider your post more accurately I would give you more information:

 

A. As a preamble, and although there are other more obvious aspects, should be considered that no one has seen many jewel tassie azure blue pearl -I mean this color in concrete-. Our blind cap could not be easily a azure blue pearl tassie.

 

B. The end of this blind cap is the same color as the blind cap, ie azure blue pearl and follow the same banding pattern.

 

C. The end of this blind cap is not a tassie but "false tassie", nor a foreign element pressed, is seems to be the same blind cap that has been turning machined or hand carved.

 

http://s16.postimg.org/jpdhcyu4l/Long_Major_double_jewel_no_tassie_Lazard.jpg

 

and, I would even say that it is made by hands. Definitely this is not a Parker´s work. Parker didn´t it, Hopefully I could say otherwise!

Edited December 29, 2014 by Lazard 20

[FarmBoy]

Parker made blind caps with a pseudo jewel. The tassie (the metal ring) was pressed onto the blind cap that had been appropriately machined so that the end of the blind cap stuck through the tassie and appeared as a jewel. (Or, exactly what Ron said.)

[Lazard 20]

Parker made blind caps with a pseudo jewel. The tassie (the metal ring) was pressed onto the blind cap that had been appropriately machined so that the end of the blind cap stuck through the tassie and appeared as a jewel. (Or, exactly what Ron said.)

 

Thanks. Now I understand better, but perhaps you have not considered that I would say blind cap is third generation and they should not to mount jewel there, so prudence required forced me to write "someone" did this.

 

http://s14.postimg.org/ohpyrh80x/Long_Major_jewel_non_removable_Lazard.jpg

 

Not obstantly, please, excuse me Ron. As well I would say that blind cap at hand (more curved profile and larger diameter in the third generation and straighter in the second generation*) is of third generation but your affirmation "Parker did it" is possible. Although I have not seen this solution adopted in vacs "third generation", this might be possible.

 

The barrel and nib were manufactured in 1942 2T... so that we are facing with a "Long Major" (second generation by double jewel and two-tone nib mounted in our fpen), celluloid press button, with blind cap (I doubt second or third generation) of jewel non-removable at which lacks the tassie ring.

 

This would explain, is not it?

 

(*) If you try to compress both caps with a caliper, you squeezes the third generation cap and second generation is loose. The same is true in our case.

Edited December 30, 2014 by Lazard 20

[Ron Z]

I still think that it was done by Parker. Note that the shoulder where the blind cap was turned down is at the same point on both caps. The end of the blind cap does look weird when the tassie is missing. The curved shoulder would I think, help to hold the tassie on with the lower edge folded in slightly.

 

I'm also going to pull out my old argument, based on what I've seen in the last 20 years, and my visit to the Sheaffer service center in 2008, which is that just because it isn't cataloged, or shown in some sales literature doesn't mean that it didn't leave the factory that way. "Correct" is a somewhat elastic term. Why the variations, we don't know. But we weren't there when they were trying to fulfill orders and move out hundreds if not thousands of pens a week.

[Lazard 20]

Thank you newly. What you claim is very reasonable.

[ThomasB]

It's usually black, not the color of the pen, but sometimes you end up with a bulls eye in it.

 

I do see a bulls eye end jewel every once in a while, but of all the ones I have seen, they were exclusively on the silver pearl variety...Did Parker ever make a real butt end jewel this way (bulls-eye)...I ask because I have never really thought to remove the ones I have seen to see if they are faux or real.

[Ron Z]

No. All of the blind cap jewels for the later Vacumatics were black. I guess that a clearer way of saying it is that the jewels on Vacumatics are striped or black, with the later ones being black. The bulls-eye happened when the light color band was closer to the end than a black one. They were more common, or at lease more noticeable on the silver pearl pens.

[Brian-McQueen]

Most of the late blind cap jewels only seem to be black. Any pseudo jewel (one which does not screw in) where the tassie is pressed onto the blind cap is just a single piece of rod stock that has been turned like the Lazard's pen. The bullseye is most noticeable on silver pearl because of the contrast between silver and black. If a pseudo-jewel pen has a jewel that appears black, a very very close look will reveal some sort of colored rings. The exception to this is, of course, a black pen, which will have an entirely black jewel.