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I was stunned to hear that VGSN is not available. I need a substitute. It can be primary blue or indigo/purplish, but not navy. It must be dark, dark blue.

 

I have tried several dark blues. I think PR Midnight Blues is great, but too bright. I thought Sailor Shigure might be a nice purplish blue but it is bluish purple and too bright. I hate it.

 

Help please!

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Pelikan Tanzanite?

 

 

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http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/75.png

 

Mont Blanc Midnight blue seems like a good candidate (only got the pre-2013 formula in the database but the new formulation shouldn't be too far from that too):

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/13.png

 

De Atramentis Black has a hint of blue:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/606.png

 

Diamine Eclipse is a very dark purple:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/427.png

 

Pelikan Tanzanite is a dark purple too, but might be too light:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/205.png

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My Pens/Nibs (inked/active): Lamy Studio/Vista/Joy (XXF slight-flex custom | 14k EF | EF | F | 14k M | M | B | 14k 1.1 custom | 1.1 | 1.5 | 1.9), TWSBI Diamond 580 (F | Pendleton BadBoy | Zebra G | F.P.R. semi-flex), Pilot Falcon EF, Penkala Vintage 14k semi-flex, Pilot Parallel (2.4 | 3.8 | 6.0)

http://www.fp-ink.info/img/button.pngI'm still looking for help/data/supporters/sponsors for my Ink Database - It already contains over 900 Inks but is still low on data about the inks except on the Inks I got myself or where I found nice data sheets. So Im looking for these: InkSamples mailed to me, Permissions to use InkReviews - preferable by people who have a lot of InkReviews online, InkReviews mailed to me so I can scan them, Sponsors that will help me to finance InkSamples, People willing to trade InkSamples (list of available Inks from me is available via PM request - please include available Inks)

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Diamine Twilight seems to be just about the same color to me!

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pakmanpony, apologies but my Twilight looks nothing like it. Sorry.

http://www.taskyprianou.com/fpn_diamine_twilight.jpg

 

The closest I have or perhaps can recommend is Organics Manganate

 

http://www.taskyprianou.com/fpn_organics_manganate_swatch.jpghttp://www.taskyprianou.com/fpn_starry_night_swatch.jpghttp://www.taskyprianou.com/fpn_tanzanite_swatch.jpg

 

Best of luck. It's a gorgeous gorgeous colour and one I'd liked to have had more than 2ml of.

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Two other groups of ideas:

 

Blacks with a blue tint...

 

This is basically a black with a hint of blue, so maybe a bit too black:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/124.png

 

Same goes for Susemai Black Amber but you will need to contact amberleadavis if you want some of it:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/59.png

 

 

Very dark shading blues...

 

These shade very dark, almost completely black (darkest overall colors in the blue spectrum):

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/209.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/73.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/505.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/251.png

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My Pens/Nibs (inked/active): Lamy Studio/Vista/Joy (XXF slight-flex custom | 14k EF | EF | F | 14k M | M | B | 14k 1.1 custom | 1.1 | 1.5 | 1.9), TWSBI Diamond 580 (F | Pendleton BadBoy | Zebra G | F.P.R. semi-flex), Pilot Falcon EF, Penkala Vintage 14k semi-flex, Pilot Parallel (2.4 | 3.8 | 6.0)

http://www.fp-ink.info/img/button.pngI'm still looking for help/data/supporters/sponsors for my Ink Database - It already contains over 900 Inks but is still low on data about the inks except on the Inks I got myself or where I found nice data sheets. So Im looking for these: InkSamples mailed to me, Permissions to use InkReviews - preferable by people who have a lot of InkReviews online, InkReviews mailed to me so I can scan them, Sponsors that will help me to finance InkSamples, People willing to trade InkSamples (list of available Inks from me is available via PM request - please include available Inks)

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Thanks all for the help. Sokme of those inks I never paid much attention to in the past.

 

Are you sure the Organics Manganese doesn't lean green?

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Are you sure the Organics Manganese doesn't lean green?

 

Not my sample.

 

I didn't buy a whole bottle as I fell head over heals in love with Blue Merle.

 

bardiir, LOVING your system. So technical and easy to use.

Forgive my ignorance, I didn't realise until about a minute ago that you could click on the links to reveal encyclopaedic sampling. :wub:

 

Fantastic!!!!

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Thanks all for the help. Sokme of those inks I never paid much attention to in the past.

 

Are you sure the Organics Manganese doesn't lean green?

 

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/81.png

 

It DOES lean into the green on a technical scale. Nothing you will see with your bare eye. For your eyes this is a pretty pure blue. But if you really distaste green color then you might want to choose something with a purple lean as something pure blue or with a minimum green lean will produce a noticeable green tint on off-white not perfectly white paper that is yellowish by itself. Purplish tints will cancel that out.

 

 

 

bardiir, LOVING your system. So technical and easy to use.

Forgive my ignorance, I didn't realise until about a minute ago that you could click on the links to reveal encyclopaedic sampling. :wub:

 

Fantastic!!!!

Thanks, still in development though :)
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My Pens/Nibs (inked/active): Lamy Studio/Vista/Joy (XXF slight-flex custom | 14k EF | EF | F | 14k M | M | B | 14k 1.1 custom | 1.1 | 1.5 | 1.9), TWSBI Diamond 580 (F | Pendleton BadBoy | Zebra G | F.P.R. semi-flex), Pilot Falcon EF, Penkala Vintage 14k semi-flex, Pilot Parallel (2.4 | 3.8 | 6.0)

http://www.fp-ink.info/img/button.pngI'm still looking for help/data/supporters/sponsors for my Ink Database - It already contains over 900 Inks but is still low on data about the inks except on the Inks I got myself or where I found nice data sheets. So Im looking for these: InkSamples mailed to me, Permissions to use InkReviews - preferable by people who have a lot of InkReviews online, InkReviews mailed to me so I can scan them, Sponsors that will help me to finance InkSamples, People willing to trade InkSamples (list of available Inks from me is available via PM request - please include available Inks)

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Ink base = phantastic.

Check out S.T.Dupont dark blue (only in carts) and D's Eclipse.

 

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Two other groups of ideas:

 

Blacks with a blue tint...

 

This is basically a black with a hint of blue, so maybe a bit too black:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/124.png

 

Same goes for Susemai Black Amber but you will need to contact amberleadavis if you want some of it:

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/59.png

 

 

Very dark shading blues...

 

These shade very dark, almost completely black (darkest overall colors in the blue spectrum):

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/209.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/73.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/505.png

http://www.fp-ink.info/colorcard/251.png

I have read that Stipula Calamo black when somewhat diluted also comes up a very dark blue black,

 

D.ick

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http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_160.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I like VerdeGris

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_155.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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As you can see, the IG version of Pelikan Blue Black is not as dark.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_100.jpg

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_160.jpg

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_092.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_172.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_172b.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_173.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_173b.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_224.jpghttp://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_224b.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Okay, I take it back, Manhattan might be too blue. So I say, go with Midnight.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/2014-Inklings/slides/2014-Ink_1167.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Amberleaddavis,

 

That is Noodler's Midnight?

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