Monteverde - Brown

[Sandy1]

Excellent review! I discovered the MV brown in their cartridges made for Lamy pens. I find it to have excellent properties. These carts are unique in that the other end can be used as international carts. OT but I have found there green to have equally good qualities. Odd, but I didn't find the same in their other colors and I think I tried all of them.

Hi,

 

Thanks for the compliment!

 

I hadn't been aware that some Monteverde cartridges also fit the Lamy pens - nice treat! (Subsequently determined to be 'L30' cartridge.)

 

I've tried a few of the other Monteverde inks, and find that their Brown is the one that appeals to me the most. Amongst the other Brown inks I've tried, it is one of the few that combines an appealing appearance with strong performance, hence has admirable versatility.

 

From a personal standpoint, I find it just a bit warm when pale, so prefer to run it rather dark from a wet pen and/or onto an absorbent paper, but still keep some shading & lustre.

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Personally love this ink. It was exactly the well behaved brown that I was looking for. Just a heads up though, the bottled ink and cartridge may have some differences. My bottle of Monteverde Brown has absolutely 0 water resistance. When I tested it along with other non-permanent inks, it was one of the fastest to wash away with plain water (flushes out of my pens very quickly though).

Hi,

 

I'm glad you also enjoy this ink.

 

Many thanks for the heads-up on the bottled ink's lack of water resistance.

 

Even though that is a most unpleasant piece of news.

 

The Wet Tests shown are intended to emulate domestic accidents, so do not use water at any pressure, neither do they emulate nefarious acts of a villain trying to alter a document.

 

As the ink I used for this Review was purchased in late 2010, I wonder if the ink has since been reformulated - perhaps to come into compliance with EU REACH regulations.

 

Bye,

S1

[Bo Bo Olson]

It appears more a sepia ink in the review.

I don't have it. May be next year.

 

I'll be waiting for more brown inks to show up in your reviews. I have 5 or 6 and a sepia.

[Sandy1]

It appears more a sepia ink in the review.

I don't have it. May be next year.

 

I'll be waiting for more brown inks to show up in your reviews. I have 5 or 6 and a sepia.

 

Hi,

 

I agree it is 'somewhere' in the Sepia colour group, which are typically quite warm, but without too much of a Red-Orange aspect, such as that seen in Pelikan 4001 Brown LINK.

 

I have reviewed a more Brown inks - as of today I reckon there are twenty other Reviews to be found. And yes, the OOTE Summary is quite overdue.

 

Bye,

S1

Edited February 26, 2013 by Sandy1

[Bo Bo Olson]

I of course enjoy your reviews.

At no time would I wish to appear pushy.

 

I have been mostly limiting my self (mostly) to Continental inks (no Diamine) in that is huge enough.

There are some Swiss inks, other Italian inks, a load of French inks that have a different name than Herbin :blink: ....much less the German inks.

 

Living in the Golden age of Inks, with copper coinage. :bonk:

[Sandy1]

I of course enjoy your reviews.

At no time would I wish to appear pushy.

 

I have been mostly limiting my self (mostly) to Continental inks (no Diamine) in that is huge enough.

There are some Swiss inks, other Italian inks, a load of French inks that have a different name than Herbin :blink: ....much less the German inks.

 

Living in the Golden age of Inks, with copper coinage. :bonk:

Hi,

 

I'm glad you still enjoy my Reviews.

 

I hope to never mistake enthusiasm for 'pushy-ness'.

 

Every time I pass by the ink storage, I hear the bottles jostling around trying to get my attention, 'Pick me! Pick me! I want to strut my stuff on FPN!!!' And I have to calm the furore when new arrivals are reviewed prior to inks of long standing, with inky recriminations of 'Queue jumper!'

 

Bye,

S1

Edited February 26, 2013 by Sandy1

[Miles R.]

I have been trying a sample of this ink in my Monteverde Artista Crystal. I place it within a range of colors that I particularly like, namely dark reddish browns. The one thing about the ink that I find unsatisfactory is that, at least with the one pen in which I have been using it, it always starts out VERY dark and then, with a bit of continuous writing, pales to a medium shade. If I stop writing for ten or fifteen seconds, the dark shade returns. This seems to be due to ink accumulating in the feed of the pen, but I have used other inks in the same pen and have not previously noticed such a thing happening to such a degree. Here is a photograph that may show what I mean. Notice in particular the disparity in shade between the words in the fourth and fifth lines ("Berkeley, The Gar[den of Earthly De]lights") and lines under them, which were drawn after not using the pen for a bit. I like shading, but the variation of darkness with this ink is so stark that it can make a manuscript looks as if it had been written with two different inks, and any instance in which one has paused to take thought in the middle of a sentence will leave a conspicuous trace.

 

 

 

[Runnin_Ute]

I only have a sample of this, but I really enjoyed it. It is on a list of "to get" inks. I used it quite a bit in a Phileas with Medium nib. Behaved well on Made in Brazil comp book paper, Piccadilly leatherlook notebook (cream colored) and Black n Red notebook paper, both in A4 casebound and A5 wirebound.

[Sandy1]

I have been trying a sample of this ink in my Monteverde Artista Crystal. I place it within a range of colors that I particularly like, namely dark reddish browns. The one thing about the ink that I find unsatisfactory is that, at least with the one pen in which I have been using it, it always starts out VERY dark and then, with a bit of continuous writing, pales to a medium shade. If I stop writing for ten or fifteen seconds, the dark shade returns. This seems to be due to ink accumulating in the feed of the pen, but I have used other inks in the same pen and have not previously noticed such a thing happening to such a degree. Here is a photograph that may show what I mean. Notice in particular the disparity in shade between the words in the fourth and fifth lines ("Berkeley, The Gar[den of Earthly De]lights") and lines under them, which were drawn after not using the pen for a bit. I like shading, but the variation of darkness with this ink is so stark that it can make a manuscript looks as if it had been written with two different inks, and any instance in which one has paused to take thought in the middle of a sentence will leave a conspicuous trace.

 

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Many thanks for sharing your experience with that pen+paper combo - even it wasn't so good.

 

I really am at a loss to explain such anomalous behaviour, especially when other inks run as expected in that pen. It seems that the less saturated inks will reveal any variation in the flow far more readily than the saturated inks.

 

My only suggestion is to give the pen a thorough cleaning - which is the first thing I do if things aren't as expected. Also try Monteverde Brown in another of your pens. As much as some ink+pen combos seem to be a bit special, we also have the opposite side of that coin.

 

I had a case of 'ink starvation' in one of my pens, which was very frustrating to resolve - I eventually enlarged the feed channel! Fortunately it was an inexpensive pen that is still in production, so I was OK with the potential downside of my bungling.

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

I only have a sample of this, but I really enjoyed it. It is on a list of "to get" inks. I used it quite a bit in a Phileas with Medium nib. Behaved well on Made in Brazil comp book paper, Piccadilly leatherlook notebook (cream colored) and Black n Red notebook paper, both in A4 casebound and A5 wirebound.

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with this ink, and for mentioning the pen+paper combos that gave good results!

 

Choosing amongst the Brown inks can be a bit tricky, (or I'm too fussy), so the more information & opinions we have, the better our chances become for inky enjoyment!

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

As the thumbnail images were not displaying as intended, I take this opportunity to include full-size images below. I apologise if this slows your viewing pleasure.

 

Bye,

S1

 

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Figure 2.
NIB-ism ✑
Paper: HPJ1124.
Depicts nibs' line-width and pens' relative wetness.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/Ink%20Review%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/3a5b7b3a.jpg

 

Somiko on HPJ1124:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/Ink%20Review%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/afcc2e0b.jpg

 

C74 on Rhodia:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/Ink%20Review%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/baa9c89d.jpg

 

P99 on G Lalo:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/Ink%20Review%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/6f45de99.jpg

 

45 on Royal:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/Ink%20Review%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/f3934de9.jpg

[georges zaslavsky]

interesting brown looks like a lot stipula brown , thanks for sharing

[Sandy1]

interesting brown looks like a lot stipula brown , thanks for sharing

 

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

I wasn't aware that Stipula had a 'Brown' ink - their current range includes 'Sepia'.

 

Too often it happens that inks are changed for whatever reason, with Caran d'Ache & Montblanc being the latest villains actors in that ongoing saga.

 

I do like the current Stipula Sepia, which I've shown below, and reviewed here: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/225487-stipula-calamo-sepia/page__view__findpost__p__2401272

 

L: Stipula Sepia. R: Monteverde Brown

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN_2013/Comparison%20-%20Stipula%20Sepia%20-%20Monteverde%20Brown/INK194_zps8e5411b8.jpg

 

Bye,

S1