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I think it was stated somewhere in an ink review that this ink contains a very little amount of iron gall.

 

By the way, does anyone else think that this ink has kind of a funny smell to it?

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After reading a buncha posts about people who hate this ink because its too bleh, it's beautiful to see someone showing us its true potential.

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sweet mamba-jambas. If you (or anyone else) can compare this to Noodler's Legal Lapis on one scan, I'd be eternally grateful.

 

Maybe Lamy blue-black too?

Hi,

 

I posted this My link in the Comparisons etc. SubForum.

 

As I do not have Lamy BlBk, I substituted MB Midnight Blue.

 

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Yes, it is a water based ink. However, iron-galls are water based too. Fountain pen inks are water based. I inquire because there was a thread a while back : https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/137998-pelikan-blue-black/page__st__30 with a post about that. I wanted to ask just for further confirmation because I want to try an iron-gall ink, and at the same time, I want to try this ink, so if this is an iron-gall ink, then I'll be covering two of my bases. The shading and properties of the ink might make it a good addition to my daily rotation.

 

 

Out of curiosity, I emailed Pelikan a few days ago to inquire whether the Blue Black ink contained iron gall. Their response was:

 

"Yes, our blue-black ink is a ferrogallic ink , he is right. But the ink is not fully permanent."

 

That seems to line up with what others have been told and common experience with this ink.

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Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not even trying to argue with you... but...

... I phoned Pelikan a year or two ago and they (actually it was a she) told me that no, it is/was no iron-gall ink.

 

Hmm

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Incorrect, probably. I have a feeling that some of the customer service people may be misinformed. Not just Pelikan ones, I think it's widespread >_>

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Like this ink, but didn't found appropriate pen to use it yet.

 

Pelikan Blueblack is the ink for a real wet nib.

 

I agree. I really want to like this ink.

But all the time I've been using it, it doesn't look "blue-black", more like a dull, boring, indeterminate shade of grey which isn't that appealing at all. You make the ink look like I want it to be Lol.

 

Great review; now I just need a good, inexpensive and really wet pen. You made PBB look as good as I've never seen it before :)

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Rigorous review; thoroughness (and consistency of measurements/standards) much appreciated. Your handwriting is absolutely incredible and causes me to question whether I should even own a fountain pen!

 

I have a few ongoing "quests" for the perfect ink; one quest is for the perfect green, and the other is for the perfect blue/black. In light of the B/B, I was wondering how the Pelikan Blue/Black compares color/shading with Diamine Blue/Black and Noodlers Blue/Black. Have you conducted any comparisons between similarly named colors of inks? If so, how do the colors and shading compare? How blue are the blues, and how black are the blacks, and how do the colors comparatively interact? Also, would there be any other blue/blacks you would recommend that perform as well or better than the Pelikan?

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Rigorous review; thoroughness (and consistency of measurements/standards) much appreciated. Your handwriting is absolutely incredible and causes me to question whether I should even own a fountain pen!

 

I have a few ongoing "quests" for the perfect ink; one quest is for the perfect green, and the other is for the perfect blue/black. In light of the B/B, I was wondering how the Pelikan Blue/Black compares color/shading with Diamine Blue/Black and Noodlers Blue/Black. Have you conducted any comparisons between similarly named colors of inks? If so, how do the colors and shading compare? How blue are the blues, and how black are the blacks, and how do the colors comparatively interact? Also, would there be any other blue/blacks you would recommend that perform as well or better than the Pelikan?

 

I am using a sample vial of Pelikan Blue Black from Goulet Pens and really like it, although I am concerned that it's sometimes dry on startup in a pen that usually doesn't have that problem. Just wanted to caution that the primary rule is YMMV, so just use reviews and scans as a helpful rule of thumb. It all depends on your own tastes and eye, particularly with such global questions. I am big on blue blacks. In terms of Noodler's Blue Black, my bottle was too balky for me. Things gunked up a little bit. It's a very saturated ink and I recall it as being quite dark. I think I tried a sample vial of Diamine Blue Black from Peartree Pens a few years ago and found it too saturated for me (unusual for a Diamine ink), but my recollection is hazy. The Pelikan is less saturated; there's really nice shading. From former threads, I think the blueness of Pelikan Blue Black might be highly dependent on what pen is used.

 

Diamine Prussian Blue is a nice grayed blue that flows freely and was to my taste a few years ago. I still like it. Platinum Blue Black skews a lot more toward Blue than Black; it's about as blue as I can stand. Sailor Blue Black is nice, but it also is on the bluer side and nicely dark. A complimentary sample vial of PR Sonic Blue from Goulet Pens reminded me of the nice grayish blue of Diamine Prussian Blue, but less water resistant, and I liked the Diamine better, for some reason. Some people recommend a very dark blue as being blue-black (as in PR Midnight Blues, for examples). Others recommend the iron gall inks, the true blue blacks. I like the look, but am lazy on pen hygiene, so am too scared to buy them. My sample vial (batches can vary in inks) of Pelikan blue black is to my mind my ideal blue black (for me) -- but that can change!

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Awesome review, as always! This is one of my favorite colors of blue-black, but I find myself not using it very often because it writes too dry for my taste. But I'm an exception, I think that no pen is too wet....lately I've been using J. Herbin in a Platinum Music Pen (extremely wet) and it just gets to the level of wetness that makes me happy :thumbup: The Pelikan Blue Black is one of the staple inks out there, and it's one I would recommend to anyone.

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This is one of my favorite colors of blue-black, but I find myself not using it very often because it writes too dry for my taste.

I've had this issue - it competes with Lamy Blue Black as my dryest ink. However, I've recently found that it's the perfect ink for a vintage Kaweco Sport that I have, which is a very wet writer generally. What I like is that, while it's dry, it still seems relatively lubricating on the nib and doesn't leave it squeaking across the paper.

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Rigorous review; thoroughness (and consistency of measurements/standards) much appreciated. Your handwriting is absolutely incredible and causes me to question whether I should even own a fountain pen!

 

I have a few ongoing "quests" for the perfect ink; one quest is for the perfect green, and the other is for the perfect blue/black. In light of the B/B, I was wondering how the Pelikan Blue/Black compares color/shading with Diamine Blue/Black and Noodlers Blue/Black. Have you conducted any comparisons between similarly named colors of inks? If so, how do the colors and shading compare? How blue are the blues, and how black are the blacks, and how do the colors comparatively interact? Also, would there be any other blue/blacks you would recommend that perform as well or better than the Pelikan?

 

I have been contemplating doing a Blue-Black Battle Royale for some time, but I do not have quite enough in my stable to perform a thorough comparison. I do like Diamine Registrar's Ink, a blue-black iron gall ink - but it is much more on the black side than the blue.

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So much depends on the nib and the paper. I did not have enough papers; to make a statement. Cheap Xerox copy paper and 35 year old Zander BankPost paper.

With out sufficient sorts and makes and weights of paper, my test was just to see a bit of how the ink wrote, noting organized.

 

I ran it through two nails, one Fine, two mediums, three semi-flex; one Fine, and a Slightly Flexible OF.

 

I got 8 tones, that dried 'faded' the next day.

The ones that had enough blue in it to be blue black and not black blue, were the Fine nail, and the Slightly Flexible Fine.

The Semi-flex shocked me. It was black the first day, to a real dark purplish blue then next.I did not care for it.

 

The rest of my nibs on those two papers were not the least bit really interesting.....

 

The nail Fine was second best by me, with a nice blue in it, it dried with some of that blue still there the next day.

 

The Slightly Flexible Fine was first by a mile. The first day it was a vivid blue, surrounded by a black outline. The second day it dried to a nice dark blue and the vivid blue remained. :thumbup:

 

That ink dances the Tango with that nib...and on cheap and middle class paper. :thumbup:

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Great review. I have been on a good blue-black quest, and your review inspired me. I am ordering a bottle now.

 

Nice handwriting, by the way.

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That's one of my favorite blue-black. There's no green in this ink and that's what I was looking for. :thumbup: Waterman and Parker become are a little bit green when dry.

The other one that I like is Hero but this is a different story :wacko:

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