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Out of the night that covers me,

Black as the Pit from pole to pole,

I thank whatever gods may be

For my unconquerable soul.

 

Invictus - William Ernest Henley

 

And that's how black Noodler's Old Manhattan is!

 

/Blade

 

 

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The Old Manhattan appears to be much darker than the regular bulletproof black on my screen, is that right?

 

 

In my eyes it definitely. It was the oddest feeling doing a review thinking, man, how can one black be blacker than the other. That's actually the reason I like this black better than the regular one. I like normal bulletproof black mind you, but just a deep black color is great and i really enjoy it.

 

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Tom

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In my eyes it definitely. It was the oddest feeling doing a review thinking, man, how can one black be blacker than the other. That's actually the reason I like this black better than the regular one. I like normal bulletproof black mind you, but just a deep black color is great and i really enjoy it.

 

Regards,

 

Tom

 

My quest to find the blackest black started years ago, and before I came across FPN, I'd been using Levenger Raven (although I'd used and been impressed with J. Herbin Perle Noire, having bought a tiny canister of the cartridges on a visit to Kate's Papeterie in New York in 1998, as it turned out, and then not being able to find them at all in Rhode Island). I'd also liked Pilot and Pelikan and Sailor, but not Lamy, Montblanc, Parker, Namiki, Visconti... and so you see, I had plenty of trial-and-error.

 

I'd started to hear about Noodler's just before finding FPN. When I finally ordered a bottle of the OMB and started using it, I was ecstatic! This was the one!

 

And I tried the Aurora. Very black, yes, BLACK! but problematic in my pens and on my papers. Heart of Darkness? Same blackety-black, but feathery.

 

OMB remains champion of the blackest blacks.

 

I'll use J. Herbin Perle Noire in my vintage or ebonite pens, but OMB is my favorite black ink.

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...I'd also liked Pilot and Pelikan and Sailor, but not Lamy, Montblanc, Parker, Namiki, Visconti... and so you see, I had plenty of trial-and-error.

Aren't Pilot and Namiki the same?

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Aren't Pilot and Namiki the same?

 

The Namiki was in a sortv flattened oval bottle, as I recall. The Pilot comes in a squared-shoulders kindv of bottle. I tried the Namiki about fifteen years ago. Perhaps there have been changes to the companies since...? (Don't know.)

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Penguinmaster,

 

Pardon my ignorance. What kind of a hole puncher you use to get those shapes of holes on the side of the page? Secondly, where do you get those binders to store your ink reviews?

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Penguinmaster,

 

Pardon my ignorance. What kind of a hole puncher you use to get those shapes of holes on the side of the page? Secondly, where do you get those binders to store your ink reviews?

 

The holes on the side are from a rollabind punch (also called circa). I actually just use the plastic covers you can by at levengers (jr sized) to make the book. It's pretty full right now.

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In my eyes it definitely. It was the oddest feeling doing a review thinking, man, how can one black be blacker than the other. That's actually the reason I like this black better than the regular one. I like normal bulletproof black mind you, but just a deep black color is great and i really enjoy it.

 

Regards,

 

Tom

 

My quest to find the blackest black started years ago, and before I came across FPN, I'd been using Levenger Raven (although I'd used and been impressed with J. Herbin Perle Noire, having bought a tiny canister of the cartridges on a visit to Kate's Papeterie in New York in 1998, as it turned out, and then not being able to find them at all in Rhode Island). I'd also liked Pilot and Pelikan and Sailor, but not Lamy, Montblanc, Parker, Namiki, Visconti... and so you see, I had plenty of trial-and-error.

 

I'd started to hear about Noodler's just before finding FPN. When I finally ordered a bottle of the OMB and started using it, I was ecstatic! This was the one!

 

And I tried the Aurora. Very black, yes, BLACK! but problematic in my pens and on my papers. Heart of Darkness? Same blackety-black, but feathery.

 

OMB remains champion of the blackest blacks.

 

I'll use J. Herbin Perle Noire in my vintage or ebonite pens, but OMB is my favorite black ink.

Any chance that you have a side-by-side of Levenger's Raven Black and OMB? I have a bottle of the Levenger's that I'm using for my wife's FP and regular Noodler's black for mine. The Levenger's looks darker than standard Noodler's black to my eye (which I like), and I would be quite interested to see Raven Black compared to OMB. Of course, the downside is that I might then be obligated to buy some OMB. :rolleyes:

 

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The Old Manhattan appears to be much darker than the regular bulletproof black on my screen, is that right?

In my eyes it definitely. It was the oddest feeling doing a review thinking, man, how can one black be blacker than the other. That's actually the reason I like this black better than the regular one. I like normal bulletproof black mind you, but just a deep black color is great and i really enjoy it.

I've a bottle of OMB and it is my favorite, everyday black ink now. I was curious about the regular bulletproof black because I've heard so many good thing about it, but I guess your review saved me ~$12 that can be used for another ink. :thumbup:

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Am I the only one who sees this as "ink spreads more" as opposed to "ink is darker"?

 

I'm on the quest for black, too...

 

While, I haven't had a chance to use Noodler's Old Manhattan Black. I'm trying Heart of Darkness ("The Horror! The Horror!"). Like mstone thinks of OMB, I think HoD spreads more than it is actually darker. Bulletproof black seems to suck onto itself as it dries--keeping the line thin. HoD just spreads, making my fine stub look like a plain medium.

 

Is Noodler's Old Manhattan bulletproof? How similar is OMB compared to HoD?

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I really need to get this. The "black" inks I have tried in the past have all been rather disappointing.

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Is it blacker that X-Feather? Coz X-Feather is quite black too. Could someone do a comparison?

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Am I the only one who sees this as "ink spreads more" as opposed to "ink is darker"?

 

I'm on the quest for black, too...

 

While, I haven't had a chance to use Noodler's Old Manhattan Black. I'm trying Heart of Darkness ("The Horror! The Horror!"). Like mstone thinks of OMB, I think HoD spreads more than it is actually darker. Bulletproof black seems to suck onto itself as it dries--keeping the line thin. HoD just spreads, making my fine stub look like a plain medium.

 

Is Noodler's Old Manhattan bulletproof? How similar is OMB compared to HoD?

 

My experience with HoD is not as bad as yours in term of spreading, which paper are you using it with? I mostly use Rhodia and Whitelines.

 

OMB is on my list of ink to get, I am anxious to see how it compares to HoD.

Lamy AL-star - 1.1 (Omas Violet)

Nakaya Celluloid Mottishaw F Flex (PR Arabian Rose)

Omas Bologna - M (Noodler's Golden Brown)

Pelikan M620 Grand Place - Binder XF/XXF Flex (Noodler's Navajo Turquoise)

Stipula 22 - 0.9 (Waterman Florida Blue)

Waterman Patrician - M (Waterman Florida Blue)

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Am I the only one who sees this as "ink spreads more" as opposed to "ink is darker"?

 

I'm on the quest for black, too...

 

While, I haven't had a chance to use Noodler's Old Manhattan Black. I'm trying Heart of Darkness ("The Horror! The Horror!"). Like mstone thinks of OMB, I think HoD spreads more than it is actually darker. Bulletproof black seems to suck onto itself as it dries--keeping the line thin. HoD just spreads, making my fine stub look like a plain medium.

 

Is Noodler's Old Manhattan bulletproof? How similar is OMB compared to HoD?

 

My experience with HoD is not as bad as yours in term of spreading, which paper are you using it with? I mostly use Rhodia and Whitelines.

 

OMB is on my list of ink to get, I am anxious to see how it compares to HoD.

I've tried HoD on mostly Rhodia and HP Premium Choice Laser (the 32# one). I'm making my way through Noodler's eternal/bulletproof blacks. HoD is my first controlled test. But, I have some BBlack samples on Rhodia paper for comparison. An aside, on HP Premium Choice Laser HoD takes about 32 seconds to dry. Is that normal?

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I've tried HoD on mostly Rhodia and HP Premium Choice Laser (the 32# one). I'm making my way through Noodler's eternal/bulletproof blacks. HoD is my first controlled test. But, I have some BBlack samples on Rhodia paper for comparison. An aside, on HP Premium Choice Laser HoD takes about 32 seconds to dry. Is that normal?

 

I have written with it on HP Premium a few times (that's the paper of choice of a coworker ;)) but I don't recall it beeing abnormally long to dry. :hmm1:

 

HoD is one of my go to ink with my flex nibs since I find it lubricate well, has good flow and yet retain relatively crisp thin lines. I have yet to use it with a very wet pen, that might be why I didn't have any feathering issue with it...

Lamy AL-star - 1.1 (Omas Violet)

Nakaya Celluloid Mottishaw F Flex (PR Arabian Rose)

Omas Bologna - M (Noodler's Golden Brown)

Pelikan M620 Grand Place - Binder XF/XXF Flex (Noodler's Navajo Turquoise)

Stipula 22 - 0.9 (Waterman Florida Blue)

Waterman Patrician - M (Waterman Florida Blue)

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