Waterman Laureat – How To Remove The Nib?

[Tido]

Hi,

 

I found that beautiful pen (Red Marble colored) at my parents place. It was not in use for 20 years and not cleaned. Water alone didn't help, so I brought it to a store for ultra sonic cleaning. Things got much better, but from school pens I am used to better ink flow.

So I would like to know how to take it apart to clean it even better. I wrote Waterman to get a manual, but no luck. All I found is this picture in this forum, but no description how to take it apart.

 

Does anybody have pictures or can explain me what steps I have to do, once the converter is removed ?

 

Greetings,

Tido

 

Edited January 18, 2019 by Tido

[senzen]

The feed and nib just pull out. If it still feels stuck, I would let it soak in water some more.

[Tido]

  On 1/18/2019 at 9:03 PM, pseudo88 said:

The feed and nib just pull out.

In the direction of the converter?

No turning just a straight pull?

 

Attached a picture of my pen, I just saw that mine does not have these fins under the nib.

Edited January 18, 2019 by Tido

[BaronWulfraed]

Straight pull out the front (away from the converter end of the section).

 

That photo looks a bit odd -- the feed extension doesn't look to be centered, and since converters ARE centered, looks problematic... Unless the feed and section have offsets rather than more common cylindrical cuts.

[LizEF]

I wouldn't do it. I tried to do that with mine when I got it new in the early 1990s, and ended up with a hairline crack in the section. After that, it went in the box for 20 years until I got back into fountain pens and my brother helped me seal up the crack. It's fine now, but I'll never try removing the nib again.

 

If it's a MK1 (with a squared off clip at the top rather than curved), then I can confirm it pulls straight out, but I would go for a long soak with water + Dawn, and maybe some flushes with pen wash, assisted by a bulb syringe - let it suck the flush in and push it out.

 

Patience is your friend in this case.

[pajaro]

I have changed nibs on a few Laureat Is and on a couple of Laureat IIs. Both types pulled straight out of the section, but soaking in water and twisting nib & feed while pulling seemed to help. The Laureat I nibs sometimes corroded, and I replaced them with Waterman no. 2 14K nibs.

[carlos.q]

  On 1/19/2019 at 1:09 AM, pajaro said:

The Laureat I nibs sometimes corroded, and I replaced them with Waterman no. 2 14K nibs.

Now this is cool.

Will any Waterman no. 2 nib work? Will the Laureat feed need any modification?

[LizEF]

  On 1/19/2019 at 2:08 AM, carlos.q said:

Now this is cool.

Will any Waterman no. 2 nib work? Will the Laureat feed need any modification?

 

Yes, if I could get one of these nibs, it might convince me to risk pulling the nib & feed one more time (though, of course, I love the nib that's on it).

[carlos.q]

  On 1/19/2019 at 2:21 AM, LizEF said:

Yes, if I could get one of these nibs, it might convince me to risk pulling the nib & feed one more time (though, of course, I love the nib that's on it).

There are a few nibs here: http://fivestarpens.com/waterman_nibs.html

[pajaro]

  On 1/19/2019 at 2:08 AM, carlos.q said:

Now this is cool.

Will any Waterman no. 2 nib work? Will the Laureat feed need any modification?

I used the feed as it was. It all fit together and wrote as expected.

 

  On 1/19/2019 at 2:21 AM, LizEF said:

 

Yes, if I could get one of these nibs, it might convince me to risk pulling the nib & feed one more time (though, of course, I love the nib that's on it).

The nibs came from Waterman pens I burned up trying to pull the section for a resac.

[amk]

If you find it hard to maintain a grip, by the way, using a rubber pad or simply wearing latex gloves can really help. Don't use pliers :-)

[Tido]

Hi, Thank you very much for your answers. I read here before I wrote but couldn't find all these great tips except for: do not use teeth or pliers

 

  On 1/19/2019 at 12:24 AM, BaronWulfraed said:

Straight pull out the front (away from the converter end of the section).

 

That photo looks a bit odd -- the feed extension doesn't look to be centered, and since converters ARE centered, looks problematic... Unless the feed and section have offsets rather than more common cylindrical cuts.

Thank you for confirmation. I will report back and if I succeed with taking it apart I will post the pictures of it.

 

 

  On 1/19/2019 at 12:50 AM, LizEF said:

If it's a MK1 (with a squared off clip at the top rather than curved), then I can confirm it pulls straight out,

I will attach a picture, I am not sure if you can see then whether it is squared or not.

 

 

  On 1/19/2019 at 1:09 AM, pajaro said:

Both types pulled straight out of the section, but soaking in water and twisting nib & feed while pulling seemed to help.

Shall I bath it in soap water or just water, what does support the 'process' I plan to do?

 

 

  On 1/19/2019 at 10:07 AM, amk said:

If you find it hard to maintain a grip, by the way, using a rubber pad or simply wearing latex gloves can really help. Don't use pliers :-)

Brilliant , now as you write it - is it obvious to use them, but I didn't read that anywhere and would have just given my best. I have some gloves.

 

[LizEF]

  On 1/19/2019 at 9:38 PM, Tido said:

I will attach a picture, I am not sure if you can see then whether it is squared or not.

 

IMG_20190107_195006_1.jpg

 

Yep, that's the first version. Later versions have a clip that curves. Here's an example:

[pajaro]

Later versions also have domed cap.

[Tido]

Hello again,

After cleaning with water and 24hours lying in water it was time to give it a try. I was a bit scared, not to break anything. So I took the glove and your hints and I think it worked without breaking anything. I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't see a lot of 'dirt'. However, I would like to clean it carefully anyway. Now on the pictures this looks very big, while it is not. For a person who has not a lot of expericence and tools for fountain pens - what is your suggestion, my goal: from school pens I am used to better ink flow - it is not bad, but not constant.

 

Now the pictures as promised, the parts you see are probably from 1985, it was a birthday present.

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

A toothbrush is a basic fountain pen cleaning tool.

[BaronWulfraed]

If soaking in a flush (water with a few drops of household ammonia and Dawn) and a brush doesn't clear the collector fins, an ultrasonic cleaner may be called for (use same flush solution in it).

[Tido]

Hi,

 

I have to admit I was sceptical whether I will reach my goal or not, because when I had all apart it didn't look as dirty as expected. Well, you could see on the back, some finns were sticky, but just like 2 of them. The canal and the front part with the nib looked fine to me

However, thank you for the tipp with the toothbrush, it was available, while

 

  On 1/25/2019 at 8:32 PM, BaronWulfraed said:

a few drops of household ammonia and Dawn

I still have no clue what dawn is, neither does my translator.

So, I let it soak a couple of hours in a soap-water and then did the cleaning with the toothbrush. Just one bristle fits between, the feed is unbelievable thin.

I also cleaned the 'section' that was fun torch between my teeth,magnifying glass in one hand in the other the section - you love that pen

 

Before I report back, I wanted to wait a couple days and do some tests. Finally, I proudly can say: It writes as expected!!

 

Thank you all for your support.

 

Cheers

Tido

[LizEF]

  On 2/4/2019 at 7:33 PM, Tido said:

I still have no clue what dawn is, neither does my translator.

 

Dawn is a dish soap, famous for getting rid of grease (and for being used to clean wildlife expose to oil slicks):