Vintage Pelikan 4001 Blue Ink

[Amy1234]

Hi- I am the new owner of this fine looking bottle of ink, which appears to be a sort of ?Royal blue?. Despite hunting high and low online for a bottle that looks like this one I havent managed to locate anything. Does anyone know what period this gorgeous blue ink may be from and whether there is an equivalent ink made by Pelikan??

Many thanks in anticipation

Edited October 20, 2018 by Aisha

[Bo Bo Olson]

It's a modern ink, in a remake pen rest bottle.

I have a couple; sometimes comes with a new fountain pen; depending on the packaging.

Edited October 20, 2018 by Bo Bo Olson

[Amy1234]

Oh ok, is it their Royal blue?

[sargetalon]

These are not uncommon. I've seen them with Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue and Brilliant Black mostly. On the right hand side of the 4001, does it say "kongisblau?" That is German for Royal Blue. That is where the color is usually listed. These were reproduction bottles. I believe that they came out sometime late 90s/early 00s. If it is Konigsblau, it's the same formulation available today.

[Amy1234]

Yes, youre right..! It does say konigsblau , thank you. Im so glad because I just ordered a Pelikan ink in Royal blue hoping it might bear some resemblance. Also, I came across a post somewhere since first looking that mentions these bottles were made around 2012 to the same design as those made in 1896.....I think.

Id love to find some more of these bottles.......

[Kalessin]

You can currently get the same ink (Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue) in a 60ml bottle with a similar "historical design" label, though I'm not sure who is carrying it in the UK. Here is an example of it at a USA seller:

 

https://www.penchalet.com/ink_refills/fountain_pen_ink/pelikan_4001_bottled_fountain_pen_ink.html

[inkstainedruth]

I haven't seen that color in those bottles, but I picked up a bottle of 4001 Brilliant Black last spring on the way down to the Baltimore/Washington Pen Show, at a place that was part antiques mall and part (well mostly) an indoor flea market.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Amy1234]

Well, look what I found.....never thought to try looking for historic bottle in the search...seems it is available after all in the UK!! Hooray for all you fabulous pen folk on FPN !

 

https://www.cultpens.com/i/q/PK55062/pelikan-4001-fountain-pen-historic-ink-625ml-bottle

[Kalessin]

Well, look what I found.....never thought to try looking for historic bottle in the search...seems it is available after all in the UK!! Hooray for all you fabulous pen folk on FPN !

 

https://www.cultpens.com/i/q/PK55062/pelikan-4001-fountain-pen-historic-ink-625ml-bottle

 

Excellent! Not a bad price, either!

 

I was just digging through some ink bottles that I have in a box in the basement, and found an unopened "flat with pen rest" style historic bottle (like the one in the original post, but mine has black ink in it).

 

I think Pelikan started making the historic-style flat bottle with pen rest in 1982, coincident with the release of the M400, which was a pen design they hadn't made for 20 years. Many early M400's came in a presentation box with one of these ink bottles. There are model numbers that are easier to search for that were available at the same time with the same presentation box with ink bottle, models 150/481 and 481.

 

While I love the shape of the historic bottle, it's unfortunately not the most useful for filling fountain pens. In Pelikan's current designs, the 60ml standard Pelikan bottles are my favorite, followed by the 30ml.

[1nkulus]

Well, look what I found.....never thought to try looking for historic bottle in the search...seems it is available after all in the UK!! Hooray for all you fabulous pen folk on FPN !

 

https://www.cultpens.com/i/q/PK55062/pelikan-4001-fountain-pen-historic-ink-625ml-bottle

 

It is just the modern bottle with a different label, nothing like the original picture.

An extra 80p for a label change.

Edited October 30, 2018 by 1nkulus

[Kalessin]

 

It is just the modern bottle with a different label, nothing like the original picture.

An extra 80p for a label change.

 

80p (or its equivalent for me) wouldn't break the bank, and I think the label looks much nicer than the current regular label.

 

I have a still-sealed square style bottle of 4001 Black. I also had an open one, but gave it to a nephew, because it's really not the best design for use with a piston-fillers, which are most of my pens.

[1nkulus]

80p (or its equivalent for me) wouldn't break the bank, and I think the label looks much nicer than the current regular label.

 

Agreed, but IMO there was no need for the surcharge.

OTOH, it would have been better if Pelikan had relaunched the vintage bottle rather than a label change.

[pennonia]

Actually have a bit older bottle of Royal Blue, so you could call it vintage and it's a different shade altogether.

 

 

Here's how the bottle and box looks like.

[Brandywine]

wow! That is an old bottle!

I have an old bottle of Pelikan black from my schooltime of that design.

I bought it about 1977 or 1978, but I think they kept this design till the 1980s.

 

The darker colour could be the effect of water evaporizing from the ink:

That bottle is at least 30 years old and then that may happen even with bottled ink.

[Spelikan]

Does anyone know what period this gorgeous blue ink may be from and whether there is an equivalent ink made by Pelikan??

Many thanks in anticipation

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To follow up: upon my own (recent) first view of this bottle, I determined to hunt down my own.

 

Pelikan seems to have released a number of boxed sets (pen, and ink in this bottle) to/in Italy. They appear somewhat frequently on the Italian eBay site, with pen models ranging from 150 through 400s.

 

I jumped at the pen and price point that suited me best.

 

Come for the bottle, stay for the M150 subsequently-- and delightfully-- ground to cursive italic by Dan Smith.

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ S.

[sansenri]

Pelikan sold 4001 in these bottles for a period

I am unsure when they date back, but I have a few of these royal blue bottles

 

 

[1nkulus]

Since your label is different to the OP, it would seem Pelikan had used modern and vintage labeling on these bottles.

The trend continues with the modern bottles too.

 

Any idea when/where you purchased these?

[sansenri]

I believe mine are quite old, as they were bought together with some almost vintage pens, if I recall this one was in the box with a Pelikan M250. The pen box was the old grey yellow cardboard box. I cannot date them though because I bought them about 5-6 years ago.

Edited November 12, 2018 by sansenri

[sansenri]

by the way

check here

http://www.overdiep.nl/ink/

[1nkulus]

by the way

check here

http://www.overdiep.nl/ink/

 

I believe mine are quote old, as they were bought together with some almost vintage pens, if I recall this one was in the box with a Pelikan M250. The pen box was the old grey yellow cardboard box. I cannot date them though because I bought them about 5-6 years ago.