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I got a Pelikan 400 and following suggestions of other users I decided to load it with a green ink.

In the end I had two inks which looked pretty close:

 

KWZ Rotten Green (left)

Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu

 

After making splash cards the KWZ almost looks like it is made for Pelikan...

 

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In my green M800 I am using Pelikan Edelstein Jade. To my (slightly color blind) eye it's a perfact match.

 

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My favorites are (in no particular order)

 

- Edelstein Aventurine

- Pelikan 4001 Dark Green

- Montblanc Irish Green

- Graf von Faber-Castell Moss Green

 

I used to like Diamine Green-Black. I still like the color, but Diamine inks tend to smear, bleed and feather a lot (in my experience). So, I tend not to use them anymore.

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I don't tend to match ink color to barrel color. My 400 last had Edelstein Tanzanite in it (which looked quite nice coming out of the OB nib :thumbup:).

Admittedly, I *do* match ink colors to the M400 Brown Tortoise -- for some reason, that pen only gets brown inks (currently Noodler's Walnut -- the wetness of the pen combats the dryness of the ink well). I keep telling myself that at some point I'm going to break myself of that and stick, oh, turquoise ink in the pen, but it never happens....

Hmmm. Rotten Green looks like a nice color -- in the past I was worried that it was leaning a little too much towards the blue side of the spectrum, but doesn't in your images. (No -- stop -- must not buy more ink....)

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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My favorites are (in no particular order)

 

- Edelstein Aventurine........................has to have a very good paper match...in I find it feathers.

Jade was a bit pale. DA Golf is a great shading pale green ink....a stand alone ink....because in comparisons it don't win. It is worth having a bottle of it though....in it shades well.

 

- Pelikan 4001 Dark Green is ok...reminds me of the old LE MB Winter Forest....that I do got to start using up.

 

....I do like 4001 as a green-green ink. It finished third by a neck to R&K Verdura .... Montblanc Irish Green finished second to Verdura by a head and just a bit before 4001 Green.

- Graf von Faber-Castell Moss Green...is worth the price. Nice bottle too.

 

I used to like Diamine Green-Black. I still like the color, but Diamine inks tend to smear, bleed and feather a lot (in my experience). So, I tend not to use them anymore. .....I agree they feather. I've 4-5 of them and they all feather.

I am a bit OCD when it goes about feathering....all the way up to the Big Honking Magnifying Glass. ...... But Diamine is BEF. bare eyed feathering....feathering seen while sitting.

 

 

Green ink :huh: :wacko: :sick: :headsmack: Then I got a bottle of 4001 Green on sale....and it shaded. :drool: :puddle: :notworthy1:

 

With in the next year I bought some 11 different green inks....from murky....did miss the MB Racing Green....my own fault...got MB Sepia instead....I did not understand murky ink back then...nor murky shading inks.

Vert Empire...Herbin is good for that.

There is somewhere a grand green test of some some 35-40 green inks done by a fine poster...or was that just murky green inks? :thumbup: :notworthy1:

 

On my own green test of certain papers 10 or so of them....the worst inks were Lamy Green in second to last place by far, and dead last Diamine Meadow Green. :wallbash:

On one nib and paper Lamy Green was acceptable. Meadow Green never.

 

Right now in two of my semi-flex '50's 400's I have Lie the The in the OM and Cafe Des Ills in the OB....so one can use other inks. Both are brownish Herbin inks, that shade well.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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Bo Bo, I figured you would weigh in... I seem to remember a post in which you mentioned testing a bunch of green inks.

 

I do have R&K Verdura, but still didn't have the time to play enough with it - it sure looks like a nice color.

 

I didn't notice much feathering with aventurine (maybe I used it with decent paper). What I like about it is that, with a wet OBB nib I have, it shades like crazy :thumbup: .

 

 

... (No -- stop -- must not buy more ink....)

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

Ruth, that is heresy!! We can't have that kind of attitude here!! :D

There is always 1 (or 10, or 20...) more ink(s) that one needs to have! :)

 

@Jan2016, I really like the color of that KWZ. But that Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu... oh, my! I absolutely need it! :)

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Ruth, that is heresy!! We can't have that kind of attitude here!! :D

There is always 1 (or 10, or 20...) more ink(s) that one needs to have! :)

 

:lol:

Actually, I went to buy a bottle of ink at the new local pen shop in Pittsburgh this evening before meeting people for dinner -- been checking in every couple of weeks since they opened for when their next shipment of Diamine inks were coming in so I could get a bottle of Oxford Blue.

And Oxford Blue came in and went right back out.... :gaah:

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"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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Thanks for the nice suggestions. Faber-Castell Moss Green looks indeed also very close to the green of the pen, and lucky me, I have a sample of it! :) I will load it after the Rotten Green.

 

And of course you can have favorites in the blue and black ones (I like Tanzanite also a lot) but this is just about an exact mathc to the green of Pelikan....

 

@Lam1: I am not a fan of green inks, but you are absolutely right: Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu should be in your collection, it is beautiful! ;)

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Jan....one becomes a fan of Green inks....there are so many.

 

There are supersaturated ones....but I prefer those who shade. I don't know about sheen inks much....but there must be a green with sheen.

 

I mean I was in the middle of chasing purple /violet inks....when I got bit by the green bug, and lost a year to green illness.

And one can easily underestimate how many inks of this or that color one has. I thought I was purple deficient....then counted I had 8 of them.

 

I don't like blue black....why then do I have 8 of them?????

Why do I fill fountain pens with the stuff, when I make the mistake of going to Inky Thoughts????

 

One only needs one black ink....and 4001 does the trick...had been the second best black behind the 'expensive' Aurora....for decades....until Noodlers took the Black market. Now to Noodler's Black Hole fans...Aurora is not much of a black.....how ever, it is Aurora that is the Classic.

 

Some folks don't like Pelikan Black saying it's gray....well back In the Day, we didn't have such crappy paper many folks use with a super thin nib....so it was always Black....and darker than Parker or Sheaffer.

Some day, I'm going to get a bottle of Aurora black, just to say I have it.

 

If folks can have a collection of Black Inks.... :huh: :o :wacko: ......................a collection of many hued greens make more sense.

 

:headsmack: I keep forgetting I have MB Seaweed...Johnathan Swift....green. I never use it because it was so expensive....but now that I have the even more expensive Graff F-C I should test it too.

Dam...I got to get rid of half my pewter topped beer mug collection, so I can see what inks I have in my glass doored bookcase.

 

It's too bad no one pinned that 35-45 green ink test....or was that just the murky greens.

Murky is not for 'noobies'.

OH, R&K Alt Goldgrun....is not 'really' a green.......but one needs it. It may take a second use of it to fall for it....but just about everyone falls for it. :cloud9:

 

:headsmack: I have more green inks than any other color....and don't know how that happened. :doh:

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I do not recognize any of this.... :lticaptd:

 

Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu

 

Your green with a purple/red sheen....

You gotta have it... ;)

 

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that KWZ Rotten Green look very nice, i already order pelikan aventurine to match my green M1000, but maybe i will order KWZ later.. anyone try the green iroshizuku line? i saw one of them can matching the pelikan green stripes pretty nice

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Diamine Sherwood for me. I actually prefer their Evergreen in most uses, but Sherwood seems more in keeping with the Pelikan green/black scheme.

 

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:headsmack: :gaah: I forgot to test my old MB scented Christmas ink White Forest in that ink and paper test....which is actually a green. :wallbash:

 

Mumm should see what they are worth now....could be too expensive to use. :unsure:

It is!!!!!!!!!!!!! :huh: :o :yikes: You can Buy Now from me for 109 euros and save a whole euro.

 

I went and none were in the past resent auctions.....Ghandi went for 75 euro and I can buy some now for only 99 E.

 

The lesser filled bottle only had quarter of a filling in I was just testing...so that one for only 99 hummm 105....Wenn Schoen, Dann Schoen. :P I have either two bottles or one from each year if they like the Christmas brown came out in two years in a row.

 

I'm now very glad I'm forgetful ....oh boy is it time to dither. I think I paid 12 euro for each bottle. The last one was 'found' hiding in the warehouse. Dither....DITHER!!!! :lticaptd: :thumbup:

 

 

I can see my self sitting there with a snifter of Walker Blue label, scribbling on my best paper, with a matching nib for it........scribbling what.....and to Whom....Am I a gent and send enough to properly wet down a nib..... :happyberet:

Dear Bo Bo....that way I can save a stamp. B)

 

What am I going to do with the money....but buy more ink. :bunny01:

Dither......sigh......cubed.

With two bottles and boxes I'm suddenly talking money!!!!!! :bawl:

Greed....My Precious ....all two of them. :vbg:

 

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Sales
Rode the two.
"Forward, the ink Brigade!

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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I use the Pelikan 4001 dark green in my green stripped m800, very satisfactory, love the colour. Matches perfectly.

Sincerely,

Dennis

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Diamine Sherwood for me. I actually prefer their Evergreen in most uses, but Sherwood seems more in keeping with the Pelikan green/black scheme.

 

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This is my choice too. :wub:

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I don't match inks to pens but the M400/600 white tortoises with the green binde pair perfectly with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-goldgrun

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I was in my B&M today....had to order Aquamarine....on some papers with some nibs a teal.

New to the B&M were Kaweco inks.....whole bunches of them and lots of them shade well. :notworthy1: :thumbup: According to Ink Reviews.

 

Looking at Ink Review Kaweco Palm Green, was a green-green looking very much like R&K Verdura, MB Irish Green and Pelikan 4001....it shaded.

 

In the sun is over the yardarm, I'll be buying a six pack of cartridges instead of a bottle of ink .....I have over 50 bottles of inks....and got to learn to be ruthless, and have no mercy on a 1/3rd full bottle.

 

B) That 1/8th full bottle of Waterman South Sea blue...my third or 4th ink....is thick. After a tad of diluting I'll needle fill a pan and :yikes: Have an empty Bottle!!!!!! :thumbup:.....Hummmmmm sounds like a Snorkel problem to me. :D

 

I do have a needle syringe and can fill or half fill a Pelikan or Geha with ink that way.

Edited by Bo Bo Olson

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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