Help Identifying A Pilot Fountain Pen

[Alex_AT]

Hello everyone,

 

Please help me with some info about this Pilot fountain pen.

The marking on the cap says: Pilot G R14k.

On the barrel the marking says: Pilot Super 300G DV 08.

I looked up on the internet but I did not find anything.

How can I chage the feed or nib for this model?

 

Thank you!

 

I looked again and on the barrel says: Pilot Super 300G and not 3000.

On the barrel is another marking: MITSUI

Edited November 5, 2015 by Alex_AT

[RMN]

Looks like one of the Elite models, but I am no specialist on Pilot.

 

I'll transfer your question to the Japanese pens forum

 

 

 

D.ick

[Algester]

hmm interesting a Pilot Super model... yes it is indeed a Super but I'll try to dig up what I can if not stan will have more info

DV 08

October 8 1964, Tokyo Plant

 

your pen's date of birth and where it was born

read thisarticle to understand what the DV 08 means

http://estilofilos.blogspot.com/2013/09/datation-of-japanese-pens-iii-pilots.html

 

Yes your pen is as verified a Super G-300 if not just a plain 300

 

as for cartridges I'm lost on if it can fit the CON-20 or CON-50

Edited November 5, 2015 by Algester

[Alex_AT]

Thank you all for your answers.

 

Algester, thanks for the link!

[jar]

hmm interesting a Pilot Super model... yes it is indeed a Super but I'll try to dig up what I can if not stan will have more info

DV 08

October 8 1864, Tokyo Plant

 

 

1864?

[Algester]

1864?

opps my mistake 1964 will edit

[Alex_AT]

I found the info about it. It goes like this:

 

"Pilot Super 300 G Knob Filler Fountain Pen, 14K Gold Nib is an amazing fountain pen from Pilot. It is the Pilot Super G which was introduced in 1962. Its model number is G-300 GT, and was advertised as a pen for men. Hey, this was the early 60s! One of these pens is on display at Pilot's museum in Kyobashi (between Ginza and Nihonbashi) in Tokyo. This is the first of this model I have ever acquired. This pen has a "pull-out knob" type filling system.

Inside the barrel is a rubber ink sac (which is attached to a removable ring for easy replacement -- another great idea from Pilot). The pen draws ink like a lever filler, and on the inside of the barrel it does look like a lever filler except t is no lever on the outside. Unless somebody tells you the secret, you may never learn how to fill the pen. You simply pull out the gold end piece of the barrel, which is actually a knob or button. Turn it clockwise, and it will stay extended. Then just push it into the barrel to activate the squeeze bar. When you are finish, unscrew the knob and it will snap back to its original position.

The barrel is connected to the nib section by friction. The inner sleeve that contains the squeeze bar inside the barrel is permanently fixed in place, so don't try to force it out. The above photo shows all the parts that are supposed to come apart. Inside the metal sleeve you can see the squeeze bar.

 

over 30 stroke kanji The nib is 14K gold, a fine point, which is the most popular size on Japanese pens w common kanji characters can have over 20 strokes, and uncommon ones can go over 30 strokes.

The cap is finished with 14K rolled gold which is much thicker than gold plate."

[Algester]

good luck finding a restorer for it... as I have no ideas how one can fix this baby

[stan]

Why do you wish to change the nib and feed? the nib is specially made for this model and so is the feed.

Does it need repair? If so please explain. Repairs can be effected.

 

It is a beautiful special pen. Collectable.

[Alex_AT]

I want to clean them, the pen is working fine. Just want to clean it and reatach the sac. The trouble is I don't know how to take them out (the niband feed).

[Algester]

I'm exactly not sure if the nib and feed come in a single assembly again or is it like any of the inlaid nibs of the Super series I havent seen one "disected" so this is going to be hard for me to say for now I would probably suggest about soaking it in water

[stan]

You should not need to take out the nib and feed.

To clean, soak in water.

If inadequate, add windex to water.

[zanio]

If I rember correctly, nib and feed are simply aligned and pushed in from the front.

[Alex_AT]

The fountain pen has also a story attached to it. It was used to sign ,,Japan-Romania Scientific and Technical Cooperation Agreement'' in 1976. Or so told the person from which a got it. His father received it from the japanese counterpart.

[awa54]

Zombie thread resurrection alert....

 

I know this thread is six years gone, but I can add some tangential information:

 

I own a fully functional cartridge fill version of this pen (G300V) and have a parts pen as well (someone destroyed the cartridge interface on the parts donor, which atypically seems to be either glued, or press-fit into the section), my fully imprinted pen is dated EU 30 (Tokyo Sep. 30 1964), while the other lacks a barrel imprint of any kind. Both use standard Pilot carts, as opposed to "double spares". The Super 300G and G300V appear to share the nib, feed and cap with each other (markings on cap may vary?) and likely the external portion of the section, though the interface to the filler system on the Super 300G, is much different.

 

As a puzzling aside, the nib in my imprint-free sample has a 9 62 date stamp, which pre-dates the first confirmed instances of the now standard Pilot single cartridge. To my thinking, this implies that either the Super 300G began production in 1962 (or earlier), or that a third, undiscovered model used this very unique nib ...another far less likely possibility would be that Pilot made a pen that uses the standard cartridge two years earlier than previously believed.

 

Ebay seller sakura_zeppelin had a Super 300G up a few years back that was dated DP 27 (Tokyo Apr. 27 1963).

 

The filler system in your pen (Super 300G) is simply an integrated version of the Pilot hose/switch filler mechanism, which in turn is essentially a button filler that has a more elaborate actuation mechanism. In the cartridge fill model, the nib is form fit to the feed and as mentioned before, slides in or out of the front of the section with minimal effort, if these follow typical Pilot design doctrine, the Super 300G may have the tail of its feed held into the section by the polypropylene sac bushing. It may be possible to extract the feed without removing it, but would likely be safer and easier if the sac bushing has been removed before attempting this.

 

The only other model I'm aware of that uses this hidden button-filler system is the roughly concurrent U200, which in turn shares an overall design aesthetic and nib shape with the smaller Super 150L, which is an oddball ladies'(?)  pen with a quarter-turn section/barrel retention system and a typical switch filler mechanism. In the U200 the button is also raised for filling by pulling it out, then turning it one direction, then retracted from the filling position by turning in the other direction. I haven't figured out how to gain access to the spring and cam that effects this function, so it remains an unserviceable part of the pen... at least for me.

I'm fairly certain that all of my U200s are dated between 1961 and 63.

 

The only advantages that this system adds over a standard hose/switch filler are the convenience of not having to unscrew the barrel for filling and a slight increase in sac length (and thus ink capacity) compared to the more common converter-esque switch filler units.

 

All of the models mentioned are uncommon, but the one you have is probably the least common variant among them. That is to say; at least in my experience, it's the least often seen/mentioned of the three that share these features (nib & cap for Super300G/G300V and filler system for Super 300G/U200).

 

I keep meaning to photograph all of these pens, but have yet to do so... maybe some day (hopefully less than 6 years from now) I'll get around to it and post them here