Lamy 2000 Nib Sizes After 2010

[roklpokl]

Hi everyone,

 

I'm thinking of Lamy 2000 as my next pen and as Lamy changed the nib size on Lamy 2000 around 2010 I am completely lost which nib size to choose (F or M). From reading these forums I got sort of lost since I didn't know which pen was used as a reference, pre 2010 or after 2010 and sometimes wasn't clear if it was compared to Japanese nibs or not.

 

If anyone has the new model of Lamy 2000 and has any of the following pens, could you please let me know about the line width compared to the pen so I could decide which nib size to choose. Here's the list of pens I currently have:

-Pelikan M215 F

-Pelikan M800 M (too broad for me)

-TWSBI 580 M (great line width for me)

-Faber Castell E-motion and Ondoro (M and F)

-Lamy studio F

-Lamy Safaris in F and M (though their width varies a lot)

 

Thanks

 

[ee_rd]

Of the pens you mentioned, I have the Lamy 2000 F (I bought it last year), Lamy Safari F, and a TWSBI 580 F. My wife has a TWSBI mini with M nib. I think if you like the TWSBI M, then, in my experience at least, the Lamy 2000 F is perfect. If you look at the nib nook on the Goulet website, I think you'll find the Lamy 2000 F and TWSBI 580 M look close. I prefer fine nibs and the Lamy 2000 F is on the edge of my preference, but I do love the nib's smoothness.

[blINK]

I have the Lamy Studio F and the TWSBI 580 M also.

 

I use the Lamy 2000 F and find it to be comparable.

[KBeezie]

My Lamy 2000 with an EF (post-2009 version) compared to some of my other modern pens.

 

http://i.imgur.com/K5b3jSuh.jpg

 

The 300 DPI Scan : http://i.imgur.com/K5b3jSu.jpg

 

Though I've had some people tell me that the EF on my 2K is much finer than theirs, seems to be an inconsistency in their nib sizes (but could also be related to ink and paper, in mine I'm using X-Feather and a pair that resists feathering even with very wet flex nibs)

[roklpokl]

Great, thanks a lot for help everyone!

 

KBeezie, thanks for the sample and for the heads up about the nib incosistency. One more reason I'm afraid to go with M if it turns out to be on the wide size.

 

I think I will just go with F as suggested

[prashant.tikekar]

Great, thanks a lot for help everyone!

 

KBeezie, thanks for the sample and for the heads up about the nib incosistency. One more reason I'm afraid to go with M if it turns out to be on the wide size.

 

I think I will just go with F as suggested

I also have L2k in fine nib (post 2010) and it's quite smooth and wet. I also think that M would be wider as F writes similar to my TWSBI 540 M and bit wider than my Studio F. So it is nice decision to go with L2k in F nib.

[ac12]

I think my L2000 is post 2010.

I measured the width of the F nib on the L2000 and compared it to the width of a few Safari F nibs, and they were essentially the same, 0.028 inch wide. And the 3 Safari nibs that I measured were right at 0.028 inch. So there is consistency in my F nibs.

After tip width, the difference is the profile of the tipping, and how wet the nib writes.

[KBeezie]

I think my L2000 is post 2010.

You can tell by looking at the feed hole in the front. If it's just a hole in solid metal then it's post 2009 where they changed the section to be stainless steel with just a little plastic ring on the back. If it's before 2009, it'll show a black shape embedded in the metal in the front with a hole in it, where the section was that makrolon with a metal exterior which can sometimes crack at the prongs due to plastic-on-plastic threading.

[thatotherguy1]

I have a fine 2000 from this year and a fine Safari. The 2000 is a bit finer than the Safari.

 

Check out the Nib Nook at Goulet Pens. I have no affiliation whatsoever with Goulet, but that resource is a wonderful tool to compare the nib sizes of, well, everything you mentioned less the Pelikans. That's what I used when I was in the same situation.

[roklpokl]

The pen with F nib arrived and it is a wonderful pen The nib I got is on the thin side of western F (it's finer than the Safaris, Studio F I have), wish it was just a bit broader but it is a very smooth nib and a pleasure to write with.

 

Thanks again everyone for help

[junlon]

The pen with F nib arrived and it is a wonderful pen The nib I got is on the thin side of western F (it's finer than the Safaris, Studio F I have), wish it was just a bit broader but it is a very smooth nib and a pleasure to write with.

 

Thanks again everyone for help

 

 

Where did you get your Lamy 2000? Seems a bunch of people got the nib issues (scratchy) with their new Lamy 2000.

[roklpokl]

 

 

Where did you get your Lamy 2000? Seems a bunch of people got the nib issues (scratchy) with their new Lamy 2000.

 

I got it from Amazon.de. Just a note that straight out of the box the tines were just a little bit missaligned but it was so small that it was corrected within minutes to get it perfect or butter smooth.

 

One thing that might be relevant to scratchiness. A lot of people wrote that the nib has a sweet spot. Now I know what they mean because no other pen I have has a sweet spot like Lamy 2000. So I guess if you rotate the pen while writing the butter smooth feeling would probably come and go (maybe even feel scratchy especially if combined with missaligned tines?). Luckily for me I don't rotate but you can still feel the pen has a narrow sweet spot.

Edited August 11, 2015 by roklpokl

[thatotherguy1]

 

 

Where did you get your Lamy 2000? Seems a bunch of people got the nib issues (scratchy) with their new Lamy 2000.

Mine was buttery smooth out of the box. It's the smoothest writing pen I own.

It does have a rather narrow sweet spot though.

 

ETA- It isn't melted butter gliding on greased glass with a Teflon coating smooth, but it's superb nonetheless. I think that it's about as good as a fine is going to get.

Edited August 12, 2015 by thatotherguy1

[stephanos]

I have a related question. How do I tell what nib width is fitted onto a 2000 if I get it second hand? I don't see any markings on the nib or the barrel. It doesn't really matter, I suppose - the really important question here is whether I like the line it puts down - but it's nice to know.

[windabit]

I have 2000 with EF nib, but there's not much difference from 2000 F nib. I would prefer to go with F nib.

[roklpokl]

I have a related question. How do I tell what nib width is fitted onto a 2000 if I get it second hand? I don't see any markings on the nib or the barrel. It doesn't really matter, I suppose - the really important question here is whether I like the line it puts down - but it's nice to know.

 

It is not visible because the marking is hidden on the part of nib that is inside the hood. You would have to dissasemble the nib to see the marking.

[KBeezie]

It is not visible because the marking is hidden on the part of nib that is inside the hood. You would have to dissasemble the nib to see the marking.

Which isn't that difficult considering, and if it's second hand probably not a bad idea to check (and in the mean time that way give the feed/etc a good clean if it has any old crud on it)

 

 

I probably wouldn't mess with the piston side unless you're finding it to be quite a bit on the stiff side (as such I find that you shouldn't have to disassemble that outside of every few years if not longer).

[stephanos]

 

It is not visible because the marking is hidden on the part of nib that is inside the hood. You would have to dissasemble the nib to see the marking.

 

Not on mine. All that my nib says under the hood is LAMY and 585 - no indication of size anywhere. Sorry I should have specified in my original question.

 

Perhaps this is a feature of an older model? I believe mine to be such a model (all-makrolon section, orange piston rod).