Aurora Stub Vs Italic

[parnesh]

I recently got an Optima in blue auroloid with a factory stub. There are no indications on teh nib as to whether it is a stub or an italic. While it is very smooth, and I can write relatively fast with it, the line variation and orientation dependance makes me think it is an Italic.

 

Any way to confirm?

[Format]

A stub is usually cut straight across and quite easy to use having rounder corners than an itallic.

 

If you are finding it smooth and easy to use and at speed then it is probably a stub. You are doing better than I am, with my style of writing I find both to be a problem and settle for a left oblique for some line variation.

[TMLee]

My same question many years ago ...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/97005-stipula-italic-nibs/?do=findComment&comment=962226

 

 

My writing sample ...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/58135-can-anyone-compare-aurora-and-stipula-italics-for-me/?do=findComment&comment=565892

 

 

I believe now ,

what you have is an Italic. Not a stub.

 

rgds

 

 

 

[parnesh]

My same question many years ago ...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/97005-stipula-italic-nibs/?do=findComment&comment=962226

 

 

My writing sample ...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/58135-can-anyone-compare-aurora-and-stipula-italics-for-me/?do=findComment&comment=565892

 

 

I believe now ,

what you have is an Italic. Not a stub.

 

rgds

 

 

 

 

Thanks. I saw those writing samples earlier my pen does produce a similar line. However, under the loop, the nib is not cut straight. It's a gentle curve (looks like a waverly tip).

[parnesh]

This is what the nib looks and writes like. Not my pic.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/imgs/fpn_1383159527__aurora_optima__1_1024x996.jpg

[Format]

This is an Aurora Factory Stub if you would like to do a comparison

[eric47]

Fairly common these days to see stubs and italics without markings. Sometimes you have to look on the box or be familiar with Aurora grinds.

 

If you can write relative quickly, then chances are it's a stub. An Aurora italic has sharp corners, requiring proper nib placement which often reduces speed. It's not a forgiving nib.

 

The stub has slightly more rounded corners but still very much chisel-cut yielding good line variation. The slightly rounded corners increases the speed and make it more forgiving compared to the italic. But compared to other brands stubs, the Aurora is less foregiving. i suppose on a spectrum from italic to more spherical/rounded-edged stubs, the Aurora is closer to an Italic.

[dms525]

Fairly common these days to see stubs and italics without markings. Sometimes you have to look on the box or be familiar with Aurora grinds.

 

If you can write relative quickly, then chances are it's a stub. An Aurora italic has sharp corners, requiring proper nib placement which often reduces speed. It's not a forgiving nib.

 

The stub has slightly more rounded corners but still very much chisel-cut yielding good line variation. The slightly rounded corners increases the speed and make it more forgiving compared to the italic. But compared to other brands stubs, the Aurora is less foregiving. i suppose on a spectrum from italic to more spherical/rounded-edged stubs, the Aurora is closer to an Italic.

 

I agree with you regarding where the Aurora italic nibs fall on the cursive-formal italic spectrum, however I find that one can write quickly without the nib catching, if you use a smooth paper and a well-lubricating ink. I suppose one must also be fairly disciplined regarding how the nib is positioned on the paper. Anyway, it may be less forgiving than the stub, with which I have no experience, but it can be used to "write quickly."

 

David

[parnesh]

Fairly common these days to see stubs and italics without markings. Sometimes you have to look on the box or be familiar with Aurora grinds.

 

If you can write relative quickly, then chances are it's a stub. An Aurora italic has sharp corners, requiring proper nib placement which often reduces speed. It's not a forgiving nib.

 

The stub has slightly more rounded corners but still very much chisel-cut yielding good line variation. The slightly rounded corners increases the speed and make it more forgiving compared to the italic. But compared to other brands stubs, the Aurora is less foregiving. i suppose on a spectrum from italic to more spherical/rounded-edged stubs, the Aurora is closer to an Italic.

 

Thanks. I will try and post some pics and writing sample on the weekend. If what you say is correct, then I have a stub. When aligned properly, it is the smoothest stub style nib I have, smoother than a 1.1 TWSBI and goulet nibs. It is less forgiving than those in terms of alignment but I suspect that is because the nib is springy and the tines become unaligned if pressed even slightly at an angle.

 

Loving the nib and the pen however! I wish they still did a medium stub ( I read somewhere they used to) as this is approaching too wide for me.

[gerigo]

I think what you have is the stub. The Aurora italic is VERY unforgiving. Probably the most unforgiving of all nibs I have tried and also own. It's almost impossible to write with unless you know what you're doing. Sorry I am using language to suggest you're a novice. I just wanted to convey that of all the italic nibs I have, and I have quite a few because I LOVE them, the Aurora is the crispest. The Stipula italic is a crisper stub. Nothing close to the exactness of the Aurora

 

The Aurora was my first foray into the world of italics and stubs with a serious pen a year ago. Previous to this, I had a Visconti Calligraphy pen that was considerably easier to use. I almost returned the pen because it was so hard to use because the angle of use had to be dead on, and that it would catch all the time. But persevered, and it turned out to be a fun pen, although it's full potential was not realized until I started using it again.

 

As Beechwood showed in his photo, the stub has rounded corners, whereas the italic literally is a spade at the edges that actually flairs out. The corners are VERY sharp and you can literally cut with it.