Montblanc M, F Or Ef 18K Nib

[arashdeepsinghmann]

I know this has been discussed tons of time on this form but I wanted to see newest experience of folks with newest M,F and EF nibs.

 

I have F and M nibs in my Montblanc 146 fountain pens and both are pretty different not even in size but how they behave n write on paper. 14K-F is thin but it is towards M if you compare with F of Parker Sonnet 18K Nib from early 90s. F nib is not that smooth it scratches here n there when you write couple of pages with it. It bugs me time to time and I have done inspection of nib under magnifying loop tines look aligned so its not because of misallignement. it just looks like the nature of the nib design and I felt the same thing when I tested F nib at local MB Boutique. So after having that experience in last couple years when I bought my new Sterling Silver Solitaire Barley fountain pen with M nib. it has 18K M nib. That nib is much more smoother than my F but writes a thick line it is more of a broad to me than M. So now I have a a beautiful smooth but thick M nib and other nice thin but scratchy F nib.

 

I know all these nibs are hand grounded and each one is different so I wanted to know if other folks here have different experience if they have F nib that is Fine as well as smooth or even if someone has EF nib and that is smooth like butter. if all the F or EF new nibs in MB 146 are somewhat scratchy?

 

I am still in the window to get my nib exchange but I don't want to loose a nice smooth M nib with a nice thin but scratchy nib. I thought I should get help here and see whats the percentage of getting F or EF nib smooth.

 

Thank you folks for all your help.

[luckduck369]

The F nib in my recently acquired Ceramics 146 is very smooth. I have no complain about that.

[dcohenafp]

I am planning to buy a MB 146 and have the same question. I want to get a F, but found it to skip a little on a signature, but the M was too broad. The salesperson says it was the pen I was writing with and a new F should writer thicker and smoother. I now use a Pelikan F m605 and am very happy with it.

 

How does a Pelikan F convert to a MB 146 nib?

[DBQMary]

I have MB 146 with M, F and XF. The XF is my favorite, but I have always preferred a very fine line. I have not had any issues with my MB pens skipping and have found them to be such smooth writers that they have converted me to the MB camp. All three have been purchased in 2014 so they definitely qualify as newer. None of the three have had any adjustments to nibs and were smooth writers from the start.

 

I generally use Waterman and MB inks. Paper is often Rhodia, ARC, Tomoe River.

 

I would contact MB for adjustment. The nibs should be smooth and enjoyable to use.

[Blade Runner]

My fines are smooth. If you don't like the one u have exchange until u get the one u like while it us under the exchange window. It helps to communicate what u want, and i include my paper and request to test on it.

 

If the pen is gray market or second hand, u will need a nib tech or more expensively, a new nib.

[jslallar]

i have a completely different experience

my EF and F worked fine butt he M was a bit troublesome in the beginning and needed a little smoothing to make it work better. it is now a wet broad medium.

samples:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/post-67349-0-57128700-1397443774.jpg

[Chrissy]

I have a couple of Fine nib Mb's and they are beautifully smooth. They are all hand made so there is a difference in all of them.

 

Personally, I find the M nibs a bit too wide for me

[arashdeepsinghmann]

thanks a lot for all your replies. this helps a lot. I am going to visit Montblanc Boutique here in Dallas and going to test EF and F there on my paper not their paper. I think M is too broad even though it is v v smooth. but I don't want that pen to sit in my pen box just because nib is wide so its better to change it back to F or EF. I just bought that pen and its piston is tight so it is going to for a fix anyway why not get the nib exchanged as well.

Fingers are crossed to get a smooth but fine nib.

thank you all I will share my experience here once I get my pen back.

thanks everyone.

Edited April 16, 2014 by arashdeepsinghmann

[Blade Runner]

Since the boutique will handle packaging and shipping for u , use this service as many times as it takes to get the nib u want. You paid for this service.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Blade Runner

[arashdeepsinghmann]

Since the boutique will handle packaging and shipping for u , use this service as many times as it takes to get the nib u want. You paid for this service.

thanks . I went there today and tried EF, F and M (I used their M as I cleaned my pen and kept it ready to send back) and found that EF is scratchy nib and M is broad but they had F nice smooth and wet and I wrote few lines on my own notebook to make sure its not just MB paper where these nibs work differently than other papers. So F worked just fine on my notebook as well. I asked saleslady who actually sold that pen to me couple weeks back that I want a F nib exactly like this. I want this much smoothness and this much wet writing nib please add some comments in that paper you send along with my pen to service center so that they know what I am looking for in the nib. I also asked to check on piston as it is too tight compared to other MB I have.

 

it will come back in 2 weeks and fingers crossed to get a nice smooth wet F nib. that will be my holy grail pen if that happens.

 

I also asked her about purple ink but she said she has not heard about that ink yet so may be it will come to boutique later this year.

 

thank you all for all your replies folks. helped me a lot.

[luckduck369]

Just want add a side thought that people in Dallas would enjoy about one week shorter turnaround, which is nice.

[arashdeepsinghmann]

Just want add a side thought that people in Dallas would enjoy about one week shorter turnaround, which is nice.

another + for living in Dallas . last time it took around 2 weeks for a nib exchange so this time should not take much time either.

[Mister Mont Blanc]

Hi there arashdeepsinghmann, I hope you get a nice smooth Fine nib! That's what I was looking for when I bought my Classique a month ago. I've sent it back twice and have gone with a medium nib but I also don't like how broad it is. I presumed I wouldn't have much luck with finding a smooth Fine nib. But since each pen model has its own nib, I suppose some are different. I've heard the Boheme nibs are wonderful so maybe I'll try a Fine nib with a Boheme to see if there's a difference!

Also I'm in Ohio and both times, they had the pen for only 3 business days!

Edited May 1, 2014 by Mister Mont Blanc

[colrehogan]

I have had good experiences with all three nib types. I have a 146 EF, a Boheme F, and a 146 Collodi M. All are recent purchases since I've only been into FPs since 2010. I also have a 221P from 1981 which is an F nib, I think and it also writes well.

[Mister Mont Blanc]

I know this has been discussed tons of time on this form but I wanted to see newest experience of folks with newest M,F and EF nibs.

 

I have F and M nibs in my Montblanc 146 fountain pens and both are pretty different not even in size but how they behave n write on paper. 14K-F is thin but it is towards M if you compare with F of Parker Sonnet 18K Nib from early 90s. F nib is not that smooth it scratches here n there when you write couple of pages with it. It bugs me time to time and I have done inspection of nib under magnifying loop tines look aligned so its not because of misallignement. it just looks like the nature of the nib design and I felt the same thing when I tested F nib at local MB Boutique. So after having that experience in last couple years when I bought my new Sterling Silver Solitaire Barley fountain pen with M nib. it has 18K M nib. That nib is much more smoother than my F but writes a thick line it is more of a broad to me than M. So now I have a a beautiful smooth but thick M nib and other nice thin but scratchy F nib.

 

I know all these nibs are hand grounded and each one is different so I wanted to know if other folks here have different experience if they have F nib that is Fine as well as smooth or even if someone has EF nib and that is smooth like butter. if all the F or EF new nibs in MB 146 are somewhat scratchy?

 

I am still in the window to get my nib exchange but I don't want to loose a nice smooth M nib with a nice thin but scratchy nib. I thought I should get help here and see whats the percentage of getting F or EF nib smooth.

 

Thank you folks for all your help.

I don't know if you've done anything yet but just to give some more input... I recently got a 149 with an EF nib and seems this will be my favorite. I would recommend this in your position. It is not a super fine line but the way the tipping is pinched, it's almost like two nibs in one. I can get a nice really smooth medium line in one position, or a really fine line at a higher angle. It is not even scratchy at all like my last fine nib was.