Parker 21 Vs. Parker Super 21?

[GOM]

Just how do you distinguish a 21 from a Super 21, is the Super 21 labeled as such?

 

Recently acquired a gray 21, looks great, sac looks uninked .. but could it be a Super?

 

 

Jeff

[BruceS]

The 21 has a standard style steel nib under an enlarged hood to look like the 51

The 21 Super has a tubular nib in steel (octanium) of the same design as the 51 (the hood is smaller). actually the same nib as the 51 special

I am not sure if the "super" designation is imprinted on the pen.

[pajaro]

The 21's clip is a flat clip, where the Super 21 has an arrow clip. Regular 21 has no arrow clip. Normally, unless the cap was switched for a Super 21 cap. The nibs are different as above. The Super 21 has 21 on the cap sides. Both are nice writers.

[pencils+pens]

The aerometric converter/filler is usually marked "21" or "Super 21".

[FarmBoy]

I suspect you have a Super 21.

[OcalaFlGuy]

I suspect you have a Super 21.

 

Laying hands on your monitor again I see.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

[Ernst Bitterman]

Additionally, check the size of the intake:

 

Big on the 21--

http://dirck.delint.ca/beta/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Parker-0283f.jpg

 

Small on the Super (and yes, I should have a size-matched picture)--

http://dirck.delint.ca/beta/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Parker-0353.jpg

 

...however, this picture also shows the earlier of the two Super clips, with the arrow suggested rather than outlined. Later examples have clips like 45s.

[FarmBoy]

Laying hands on your monitor again I see.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

Smell. It is all about smell.

Still going with Super.

[OldGriz]

I suspect you have a Super 21.

Must be wonderful to by psychic.... LOL

[GOM]

 

Laying hands on your monitor again I see.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

 

Re: Your signature line ... just sold an estie sans clip on Ebay ... $2.77. Made me sick.

 

Jeff

[OcalaFlGuy]

If Esties have a downside, IMO that's it, that they were so inexpensive (both to make and sell) that the impetus was on making them Fast and consistently the same rather than being easy to repair. Repairs on Esties that would be easy on other pens aren't so with Esties as they weren't really intended to be repaired but Replaced. For this same reason there's also no large supply of parts available as there are for other pens.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

[pajaro]

I am not getting any smell out of this durned monitor. Wish I wuz psychic so I could tell if any of those durned Sonnets were genuiiiine.

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I have done bought myself a bunch of Estie parts pens. Waiting for the need . . .watched that there auction ending in $2.77 and another. Had no urge to bid, sorry.

 

I have had Parker 21 Supers for nigh on 25 years and no failures yet. Might as well sell the backups.

 

The 21s and Super 21s are durned good pens.

[OcalaFlGuy]

 

Laying hands on your monitor again I see.

Bruce in Ocala, FL

 

 

Smell. It is all about smell.

Still going with Super.

 

Damn Apple users.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

[GOM]

If Esties have a downside, IMO that's it, that they were so inexpensive (both to make and sell) that the impetus was on making them Fast and consistently the same rather than being easy to repair. Repairs on Esties that would be easy on other pens aren't so with Esties as they weren't really intended to be repaired but Replaced. For this same reason there's also no large supply of parts available as there are for other pens.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

 

Yea, I read a write-up on replacing the clip, assuming one had a replacement part, and it was quite an involved process. But, I listed it low expecting it to bid up to a decent price ... boom, $2.77. If I had known this I would've just kept it, mechanism worked, it wrote well and I don't carry my pens in my pocket anyway. I will watch on eBay for a chance to pick up one (a complete one) for a decent price, it is an attractive pen. But enough of my whining in the Parker group!

 

Jeff

[GOM]

My pen does have the arrow clip, the "intake" is small, so probably a super. I'll post a couple of pictures tonight for verification.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

[FarmBoy]

My pen does have the arrow clip, the "intake" is small, so probably a super. I'll post a couple of pictures tonight for verification.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

Yup. Super.

[GOM]

The Nib ... probably a fine?

 

 

[GOM]

Cap detail.

 

 

[GOM]

The sac.

 

[GOM]

Oh, and neither 21 nor Super 21 on the ink sac pieces.