Unidentified Italian

November 3, 2012

I started a thread in the Writing Instruments section looking for assistance in identifying a pen I recently acquired. An astute colleague suggested trying this forum. Here's the link to the thread:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/232556-identification-assistance-requested/

Thanks.

November 3, 2012

A hint? Not too long ago, Teri at Peyton Street Pens was searching for the model name of a thin sterling silver Delta pen. Her last photo has a hallmark identical to my pen with the mystery logo.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/226203-false/

November 3, 2012

A hint? Not too long ago, Teri at Peyton Street Pens was searching for the model name of a thin sterling silver Delta pen. Her last photo has a hallmark identical to my pen with the mystery logo.

http://www.fountainp...c/226203-false/

The "1 CE" is not a hallmark but rather a guild or makers mark. The CE refers to the Caserta Province. The current Delta fountain pen manufacturer started in 1982 IIRC but I don't know where in Italy they are located.

November 3, 2012

Is the logo a company logo? maybe its the initials of the owner?

November 3, 2012

A hint? Not too long ago, Teri at Peyton Street Pens was searching for the model name of a thin sterling silver Delta pen. Her last photo has a hallmark identical to my pen with the mystery logo.

http://www.fountainp...c/226203-false/

The "1 CE" is not a hallmark but rather a guild or makers mark. The CE refers to the Caserta Province. The current Delta fountain pen manufacturer started in 1982 IIRC but I don't know where in Italy they are located.

Thanks for the correction on the terminology. I had determined that it was a Caserta area maker's mark and that Teri's Delta had the same maker's mark. That leaves me with just a few questions: Did Delta make this pen (and, if not, who did)? For what retailer did they make it?

November 3, 2012

Is the logo a company logo? maybe its the initials of the owner?

Hi basterma.

I can't imagine it is the initial of the owner. The nib and cap have the same logo. I have never heard of an owner commissioning a nib with his or her initial.

November 3, 2012

A hint? Not too long ago, Teri at Peyton Street Pens was searching for the model name of a thin sterling silver Delta pen. Her last photo has a hallmark identical to my pen with the mystery logo.

http://www.fountainp...c/226203-false/

The "1 CE" is not a hallmark but rather a guild or makers mark. The CE refers to the Caserta Province. The current Delta fountain pen manufacturer started in 1982 IIRC but I don't know where in Italy they are located.

Thanks for the correction on the terminology. I had determined that it was a Caserta area maker's mark and that Teri's Delta had the same maker's mark. That leaves me with just a few questions: Did Delta make this pen (and, if not, who did)? For what retailer did they make it?

Also whether the Delta that made the pen Terri has is the Delta making pens today.

November 3, 2012

This is not a Delta pen,

and the initials are a company logo: "Nazareno Gabrielli", a fashion company....

November 4, 2012

Bravo Ambros! E mille grazie.

I think my next step is to e-mail Nazareno Gabrielli and ask who manufactured this pen for them.

November 4, 2012

Mystery solved!

It was made by Delta. Here is a list of some Italian silver maker's marks:

Hallmark Manufacturer

☆ 3094 AL ANCORA GIOIELLI DI ANCORA SILVIO & C. - S.N.C.

☆ 144 BO OMAS - S.R.L.

☆ 1 CE DELTA - S R.L.

☆ 2 CE LINEA MARLEN S.A.S. DI ESPOSITO MARIO & C.

☆ 87 CE AQUILA BRANDS S.P.A.

☆ 1425 FI VISCONTI S.R.L.

☆ 1770 FI ETRURIA S.R.L. (Stipula)

☆ 1140 MI RICHEMONT ITALIA S.P.A. O, IN FORMA ABBREVIATA, "R.I. S.P.A.".

☆ 5 TO AURORA S.R.L.

☆ 2627 VI SIGNUM S.R.L.

☆ 2670 VI ELMO & MONTEGRAPPA S.P.A.

November 4, 2012

Mystery solved!

It was made by Delta. Here is a list of some Italian silver maker's marks:

Hallmark Manufacturer
☆ 3094 AL ANCORA GIOIELLI DI ANCORA SILVIO & C. - S.N.C.
☆ 144 BO OMAS - S.R.L.
☆ 1 CE DELTA - S R.L.
☆ 2 CE LINEA MARLEN S.A.S. DI ESPOSITO MARIO & C.
☆ 87 CE AQUILA BRANDS S.P.A.
☆ 1425 FI VISCONTI S.R.L.
☆ 1770 FI ETRURIA S.R.L. (Stipula)
☆ 1140 MI RICHEMONT ITALIA S.P.A. O, IN FORMA ABBREVIATA, "R.I. S.P.A.".
☆ 5 TO AURORA S.R.L.
☆ 2627 VI SIGNUM S.R.L.
☆ 2670 VI ELMO & MONTEGRAPPA S.P.A.

Very interesting!!

November 4, 2012

Hallmark Manufacturer
☆ 1140 MI RICHEMONT ITALIA S.P.A. O, IN FORMA ABBREVIATA, "R.I.
☆ 2670 VI ELMO & MONTEGRAPPA S.P.A.

Before Richemont bought Montegrappa they had another hallmark (1055 VI) as indicted by jar, see here. Quoting directly from that post about Montegrappa hallmarks:

1055 VI would signify the older Aquila owned company.
1140 MI those products made during the Richemont phase.
Pens made during the current Aquila owned company will carry a 2670 VI stamp.

Edited November 4, 2012 by eric47