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Sorry, this is image and text heavy! But I'm only going to post this once and I wanted to be thorough with all the information I have about this interesting type of iron gall ink.

 

Pomegranates are arriving in the stores so I thought I'd share my ink recipe. When I first made this ink in 2011, it cost $2 for 32 ounces of ink (not including the cost of the pomegranates... I counted those as a recycled item).

 

Pomegranate Ink

 

4 pomegranate peels, finely chopped (I used a food processor)

2 quarts distilled water

2 ounces iron sulfate

1 oz. gum arabic

6-10 whole cloves

 

If you want to make other quantities, use the following chart:

 

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1. Mix together the peels and distilled water in a sterile glass jar. Put on the lid and keep it on. Allow it to ferment and mold in a warm room for 2 months. The mold will transform the tannic acid in the pomegranate peel to gallic acid, for a richer ink.

 

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See the mold on top? That's a good sign:

 

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2. Strain through several layers of cloth. Boil the remaining liquid for 10 minutes in a non-reactive pot to kill the biological activity (this is stinky, so I recommend ventilating the room) – reduce it down by half, to approximately 4 cups of liquid (or, if you boil too long, add more distilled water to bring it up to 4 cups). Allow to cool.

 

Boiling to kill the ink beasties:

 

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3. Add the iron sulfate and stir well (I use a wooden spoon for this). Then add the gum arabic.

 

It turns instantly black! (The white glue-like blobs are gum arabic... these take a while to dissolve-- even overnight.)

 

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4. Stir again until well dissolved. Bottle in sterile (preferably amber) jars. Add the whole cloves as a preservative. Yields approximately 32 ounces of iron gall ink. This ink does not need to age a few days to become dark. It is dark as soon as it is mixed up fresh (however, you may notice it darkening a little more as it ages).

 

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5. Make a writing sample (you should have a dark gray or light black ink-- it will look darker with a dip pen. The sample below was written with a metal dip pen):

 

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The first time I made this ink, I only made it with 1 pomegranate peel (and all the other ingredient amounts were the same). Here's a writing sample from the 1-peel pom variation (it's slightly lighter gray, depending on the pen used):

 

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Here's the one-peel pom in a Pilot Parallel with a custom-cut 1.0 mm nib (used as an eyedropper):

 

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Your finished ink will be waterproof and permanent, though perhaps not as permanent as an iron gall ink made from aleppo galls. Your ink will behave like a typical iron gall ink, darkening on the page as you write (especially on bleached paper)-- how fast this happens will depend on your nib and paper. Some ink samples I made in early 2011 show some browning around the edges, especially with the 1-peel pom version (see the scans below). My first batch of pom ink is over a year and a half old and it has not dropped sediment yet, nor has it molded over. I keep it stored in a cool room. If / when your ink drops sediment, it's time to throw it out and make another batch-- it's no longer fit as a permanent ink. (There is an article on IAMPETH about freshening an iron gall ink, but I have not tried it and can't vouch for its effectiveness. Read the .pdf here.)

 

One-peel pom waterproof test (written with a J. Herbin Glass Pen and soaked in water-- as you can see, it's very waterproof):

 

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A Note on Pens: Ordinarily, traditional iron gall ink recipes such as this one are for dip pens only and not for fountain pens (see exceptions below). For the best and most stable results, use a feather quill, reed or glass pen. Dr. James Stark (a chemist and ink maker in the 1800's) warned against using metal dip pens with iron gall inks, if your quest is maximum longevity. The metal reacts negatively to the acid in the ink-- an effect that is bad for the ink, nib and paper (the nib corrodes; the ink is aged prematurely, causing it to drop sediment; and, you're left with marks on the page that will eat holes in the paper in time.) However, if you still wish to use metal dip pens (and you will get a blacker ink if you do use a metal dip pen because of the chemical reaction with the metal), you can minimize these effects by doing this: (A) set aside a small amount of ink in a small container to dip directly from (see the vial I use in the photo above). This will prevent you from contaminating and prematurely aging the entire batch of ink. (B ) A gold-plated nib will resist the corrosive effects from the acid in the ink (still follow step A, even so). Other metal nibs will begin to tarnish immediately upon contact. Even taking these precautions will not ensure a stable ink on the page, however.

 

Use this ink in a fountain pen at your own risk! Best results will always come from dip pens.

 

Now, having said that, I have successfully used this ink in the following fountain pens: Pilot Parallel, Pilot 78G, Parker Vector, and the early 80's Sheaffer No-Nonsense Calligraphy Fountain Pen. It also worked in a Platinum Preppy Marker (not the Preppy Fountain Pen-- it clogged). The ink came out a paler gray in the marker, however. I've kept the pens permanently inked and haven't seen any corrosive damage to the nibs or nib feeds during this time. They are "designated pens" just for this ink. I periodically flush the nibs, as I would any commercial iron gall ink. As mentioned before, metal nibs will prematurely age iron gall inks, so I do not recommend direct dipping into the ink bottle (fill directly from the ink converter if it is plastic, rather than through the metal nib). As before, I recommend setting a little ink aside in a small container to refill directly from, rather than contaminating the entire batch, if metal does have to come in contact with the ink during any part of the process.

 

To clean this ink from your nibs or fountain pen: rinse or soak in diluted white distilled vinegar first, then if still necessary, rinse with diluted ammonia. Rinse well with water and dry. I recommend designated pens for this ink to avoid possible cross-contamination with other inks-- iron gall inks do not mix well with other inks, including any residual ink left in the converter or nib feed in between ink changes. Be sure your pen is thoroughly clean before filling with any iron gall ink. Don't risk ruining your pen over a bad chemical reaction!

 

Comparing This Ink with Other Commercial and Homemade Iron Gall Inks

 

These samples were written with a J. Herbin glass pen on Sugarmade paper. This sample has been stored in the dark:

 

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This sample has been in a sunny window for 6+ months:

 

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This is an ongoing ink test. You can see the one-peel pom is browning compared to the four-peel pom (which is why I recommend going with 4 peels). You can also see some of the commercial iron gall inks are fading.

 

For historical reference: These are the only two pomegranate ink recipes I've ever been able to find.

 

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#1: Infuse a pound of pomegranate peels, broken to a gross powder, for 24 hours in a gallon and a half of water, and afterwards boil the mixture till 1-3d of the fluid be wasted. Then add to it 1 lb. of Roman vitriol, and 4 oz. of gum arabic powdered, and continue the boiling till the vitriol and gum be dissolved, after which the ink must be strained through a coarse linen cloth, when it will be fit for use. This ink is somewhat more expensive, and yet not so good in hue as that made by the general method, but the colour which it has is not liable to vanish or fade in any length of time.

 

[...]

 

#2: There are but few exceptions respecting the general sameness of ink receipts of the succeeding centuries, one of which is the "Pomegranate," credited to the seventh century but really belonging to an earlier period:

 

"Of the dried Pommegranite (apple) rind take an ounce, boil it in a pint of water until 3/4 be

gone; add 1/2 pint of small beer wort and once more boil it away so that only a 1/4 pint remain.

After you shall have strained it, boiling hot through a linnen cloth and it comes cold, being then of a glutinous consistence, drop in a 'bit' of Sal Alkali and add as much warm water as will bring it to a due fluidity and a gold brown color for writing with a pen."

 

Following this formula and without any modifications, I obtained an excellent ink of durable quality, but of poor color, from a standpoint of blackness.

 

...

 

The black ink formulas of the eighth century are but few, and show marked improvement in respect to the constituents they call for, indicating that many of those of earlier times had been tried and found wanting. One in particular is worthy of notice as it names (blue) vitriol, yeast, the lees (dregs) of wine and the rind of the pomegranate apple, which if commingled together would give results not altogether unlike the characteristic phenomena of "gall" ink. Confirmation of the employment of such an ink on a document of the reign of Charlemigne in the beginning of the ninth century on yellow-brown Esparto (a Spanish rush) paper, is still preserved. Specimens of "pomegranate" ink, to which lampblack and other pigments had been added of varying degrees of blackness, on MSS., but lessening in number as late as the fourteenth century, are still extant in the British Museum and other public libraries.

 

(source: Forty Centuries of Ink by Carvalho)

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Thanks for posting! So, the pomegranate just provides acid, not color. When I saw the name, I expected more of a darkish red.

 

That looks like it would an easy first ink to try. I'm in a grad program until next May. After I'm done and I've caught up on things that I've put off (like home repairs:-), I'll have to give it a go. It will also be a good excuse to buy dip pens. :thumbup:

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What do you think about leaving out the gum arabic? Would this reduce the cleaning issues associated with using the ink in a fountain pen (I understand the acidity will be the same)?

Amos

 

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Thanks for all the information. I have a haphazardly concocted batch of iron gall ink from oak galls fermenting under my sink. Do you think I should wait two entire months? :crybaby: I'm at three weeks now and was hoping a month would be enough. :headsmack:

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  On 9/23/2012 at 10:22 PM, jbb said:

Thanks for all the information. I have a haphazardly concocted batch of iron gall ink from oak galls fermenting under my sink. Do you think I should wait two entire months? :crybaby: I'm at three weeks now and was hoping a month would be enough. :headsmack:

 

A month should be plenty, yes. I think I meant to make this pomegranate ink ferment for 1 month, but forgot about it and it ended up 2 months!

 

eta: actually, maybe you'd better go 2 months. I just double-checked the Ink Corrosion Website, and they have a fermented recipe that goes for 2 months. That's probably where I based my original time frame on. I double-checked my aleppo recipe, and I do that one for 2 months, too. It's the Isaac Newton iron gall recipe that only goes for one month-- that's what I was thinking and got confused. Which recipe are you following? (By the way, I strain my Newton recipe a week from this Friday. I'm only doing that one for one month, per his instructions.)

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  On 9/23/2012 at 10:12 PM, MadAmos said:

What do you think about leaving out the gum arabic? Would this reduce the cleaning issues associated with using the ink in a fountain pen (I understand the acidity will be the same)?

 

I don't use gum arabic in my black walnut inks and they still work fine without it. Your ink will be runnier but you could try it out and see how it goes. You can always add it in later if you need to.

Find my homemade ink recipes on my Flickr page here.

 

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  On 9/23/2012 at 9:57 PM, N2theBreach said:

Thanks for posting! So, the pomegranate just provides acid, not color. When I saw the name, I expected more of a darkish red.

 

 

 

Yes, it is rather disappointing to lose that vibrant red, isn't it? Oh, if we can only figure out a way to retain it!

Find my homemade ink recipes on my Flickr page here.

 

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Seriously wicked cool. Love the shading.

Are you using the whole peels (or as close as you can get) for a batch? Are you scraping off the pith from the insides? How fine does the chopping have to be (or does it matter all that much?) How fresh do the peels (and the cloves for that matter) need to be? What sorts of nibs are in the FPs you're using (not entirely sure I trust something made with gum arabic in my Vector), and how long are you leaving the ink in them?

(Oh this is bad. This is so very very bad. I already have too many hobbies.... :headsmack:). Of course now i'm going to have to add that reference book to the ILL list.... :roflmho:

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  On 9/24/2012 at 5:10 PM, inkstainedruth said:

 

Are you using the whole peels (or as close as you can get) for a batch? Are you scraping off the pith from the insides? How fine does the chopping have to be (or does it matter all that much?) How fresh do the peels (and the cloves for that matter) need to be? What sorts of nibs are in the FPs you're using (not entirely sure I trust something made with gum arabic in my Vector), and how long are you leaving the ink in them?

 

 

 

I'm using all the parts that aren't seeds (maybe you can even include the seeds, but I'm not sure). All the pith and rind go in. I chop it all fine in the food processor to increase surface area, mainly. I've always used fresh pom and cloves.

 

The Parker Vector and Pilot 78G are medium nibs. The Pilot Parallel is a custom-cut 1.0 mm nib, broad-edge italic-style (like a stub but with crisper edges). The Sheaffer is a fine italic calligraphy nib. I've kept these pens permanently inked (some for over a year), just to see if any damage would occur, and so far it hasn't, even with the gum arabic (and the Vectors are particularly well-suited to iron gall inks).

 

I just noticed something... most of these pens, with the exception of the Vector, have screw-on type caps. I think this helps keep the ink from drying out on the nibs. I've also tried this ink in the Sheaffer Viewpoint, which has a snap-on lid, and while the ink flows well in it, when it's set down overnight, it's dried up and has to be flushed to get it going again. So you need a fountain pen that is absolutely seal-tight with the cap for this ink.

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Just a question, what do you mean with "1 Pomegranate peel"? The peel of a whole pomegranate?

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fiberdrunk, this is a great thread and a super resource. I have always bought my inks but I may give this a try. However, I'm not sure what to do with 32 oz. of homemade ink! Thanks for your work and effort!

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  On 10/14/2012 at 8:09 PM, mboschm said:

Just a question, what do you mean with "1 Pomegranate peel"? The peel of a whole pomegranate?

 

I used everything but the seeds (and maybe you can even use those... I'm not sure).

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  On 10/14/2012 at 8:37 PM, dcpritch said:

fiberdrunk, this is a great thread and a super resource. I have always bought my inks but I may give this a try. However, I'm not sure what to do with 32 oz. of homemade ink! Thanks for your work and effort!

 

Thanks! Just look at the chart above and you can make a smaller quantity. You can make a 16-ounce batch instead.

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I'm wondering if we can get the same result from boiling the peels as in the recipes using Aleppo galls or Walnut husks. Is there a difference in the way tannins are released/modified by the heating process rather than the mold?

 

S.

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  On 10/15/2012 at 6:19 AM, smk said:

I'm wondering if we can get the same result from boiling the peels as in the recipes using Aleppo galls or Walnut husks. Is there a difference in the way tannins are released/modified by the heating process rather than the mold?

 

S.

 

You probably can boil them for a quicker result, but after reading 40 Centuries of Ink by David Carvalho (in ch. 12), it was discovered that tannin is more soluble in cold than warm or hot water. He said the best gall inks are cold made. Once this was discovered, every ink manufacturer switched over to the cold process. I always try to find the most permanent results, so I prefer to ferment, even though it takes a lot longer. By fermenting, the tannic acid partially converts to gallic acid so you get a gallo-tannic ink (which is generally darker and more permanent). Go ahead and try it cooked-- if you do, please post your results! As there really aren't any actual surviving recipes for pomegranate ink other than what's in this thread (so far as I've been able to find), you could help revive and add to our ink making knowledge base! (Notice the 2 historical recipes I posted in the quote box at the beginning of this thread-- both were boiled.)

 

I actually made a cold-process black walnut ink (I've done the cooked kind, too). The result was an ink that is not as saturated as the cooked-down kind, but I can use it in some fountain pens. I've been meaning to post that recipe next. I'm currently doing a cold-process acorn ink, too-- I have no idea how that one is going to work out!

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Thanks for your reply. I have one peel fermenting for a few days now and haven't had a chance to get the iron sulphate yet so I'll let it be until I do. I'll surely let you know how it goes.

 

I prefer darkness over permanence so I guess the boiling down method might work better for me :-)

 

Salman

 

ps: thanks for sharing your recipes - the pictures help a lot!

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I'm happy to report a successful, though a light shaded, brew. I got a lot of sludge in the ink which I believe is from the ferrous sulphate tablets I used instead of the crystals. I couldn't find the crystals and couldn't wait any longer :-)

 

The result is a usable ink that goes on a light grey-green color and darkens to a gray-toned olive color. I quite like it, it reminds me of a slightly diluted MB Racing Green. The scanner did not pick up the green/olive shade and shows a grayer version of the ink.

 

The ink was made from the peel of one Pomegranate. I have another peel fermenting and two fresh ones sitting in the dining room :-) I'm going go give it another go with boiling fresh peels and see how it goes.

 

Here are the scans from the freshly made (as in still warm) ink.

 

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ETA: that last line is written with MB Racing Green.

 

Salman

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Congratulations! It's interesting you got an olive color out of the iron tablets. I like the shading you got with yours. As it ages in the bottle it may darken further. It did for me, anyway, within about 2-3 weeks.

 

I used Hi-Yield Copperas from my local gardening center (in the fertilizer section). You can find it online, including at Amazon, though shipping would be high.

 

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Thanks fiberdrunk - this was (is!) an interesting experiment and I'm looking forward to at least two more brews.

 

I reduced the water to about half but when I didn't get a dark color, I reduced it yet again to about a quarter of what I started out with. It didn't help - if anything the ink is now lighter than it was before :headsmack:

 

I'm going to use it with dip pens only, which is fine. I'm letting it sit overnight so any sludge matter settles and decant the ink from the top tomorrow.

 

I added a few cloves - do I also need to add alcohol?

 

S.

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No need for alcohol for this particular recipe. Just throw plenty of whole cloves in. I have a batch from early 2011 that still hasn't precipated out or molded over. Just keep the air out of the bottle (i.e. as you use it up, transfer over to smaller bottles to keep the air out as much as possible).

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      Cappuccino should work. Frothy milk also helps to lubricate the nib. But it has to be made by a barista.
    • Astronymus 17 Feb 16:19
      YOu might need to thicken the coffee with something. I admit I have no idea with what. But I'm pretty sure it would work.
    • asnailmailer 3 Feb 17:35
      it is incowrimo time and only very few people are tempting me
    • lamarax 31 Jan 21:34
      Try black coffee. No sugar.
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 Jan 8:11
      Coffee is too light to write with though I've tried.
    • Astronymus Today 21:46
      You can use coffee and all other kinds of fluid with a glas pen. 😉
    • Roger Zhao Today 14:37
      chocolate is yummy
    • Bucefalo 17 Jan 9:59
      anyone sells vacumatic push button shafts
    • stxrling 13 Jan 1:25
      Are there any threads or posts up yet about the California Pen Show in February, does anyone know?
    • lamarax 10 Jan 20:27
      Putting coffee in a fountain pen is far more dangerous
    • asnailmailer 9 Jan 0:09
      Don't drink the ink
    • zug zug 8 Jan 16:48
      Coffee inks or coffee, the drink? Both are yummy though.
    • LandyVlad 8 Jan 5:37
      I hear the price of coffee is going up. WHich is bad because I like coffee.
    • asnailmailer 6 Jan 14:43
      time for a nice cup of tea
    • Just J 25 Dec 1:57
      @liauyat re editing profile: At forum page top, find the Search panel. Just above that you should see your user name with a tiny down arrow [🔽] alongside. Click that & scroll down to CONTENT, & under that, Profile. Click that, & edit 'til thy heart's content!
    • liapuyat 12 Dec 12:20
      I can't seem to edit my profile, which is years out of date, because I've only returned to FPN again recently. How do you fix it?
    • mattaw 5 Dec 14:25
      @lantanagal did you do anything to fix that? I get that page every time I try to go to edit my profile...
    • Penguincollector 30 Nov 19:14
      Super excited to go check out the PDX Pen Bazaar today. I volunteered to help set up tables. It should be super fun, followed by Xmas tree shopping. 😁
    • niuben 30 Nov 10:41
      @Nurse Ratchet
    • Nurse Ratchet 30 Nov 2:49
      Newbie here!!! Helloall
    • Emes 25 Nov 23:31
      jew
    • Misfit 9 Nov 2:38
      lantanagal, I’ve only seen that happen when you put someone on the ignore list. I doubt a friend would do that.
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 19:01
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Exact message is: Requested page not available! Dear Visitor of the Fountain Pen Nuthouse The page you are requesting to visit is not available to you. You are not authorised to access the requested page. Regards, The FPN Admin Team November 7, 2024
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 18:59
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Trying to send a pen friend a reply to a message, keep getting an error message to say I don't have access. Anyone any ideas? (tried logging our and back in to no avail)
    • Dr.R 2 Nov 16:58
      Raina’s
    • fireant 2 Nov 1:36
      Fine-have you had a nibmeister look at it?
    • carlos.q 29 Oct 15:19
      @FineFinerFinest: have you seen this thread? https://www.fountainpennetwor...nging-pelikan-nibs/#comments
    • FineFinerFinest 24 Oct 8:52
      No replies required to my complaints about the Pelikan. A friend came to the rescue with some very magnification equipment - with the images thrown to a latge high res screen. Technology is a wonderful thing. Thanks to Mercian for the reply. I had been using the same paper & ink for sometime when the "singing" started. I have a theory but no proof that nibs get damaged when capping the pen. 👍
    • Mercian 22 Oct 22:28
      @FineFinerFinest: sometimes nib-'singing' can be lessened - or even cured - by changing the ink that one is putting through the pen, or the paper that one is using. N.b. *sometimes*. Good luck
    • Bluetaco 22 Oct 22:04
      howdy
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 5:23
      I'm not expecting any replies to my question about the singing Pelikan nib. It seems, from reading the background, that I am not alone. It's a nice pen. It's such a pity Pelikan can't make decent nibs. I have occasionally met users who tell me how wonderful their Pelikan nib is. I've spent enough money to know that not everyone has this experience. I've worked on nibs occasionally over forty years with great success. This one has me beaten. I won't be buying any more Pelikan pens. 👎
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 4:27
      I've had a Pelikan M805 for a couple of years now and cannot get the nib to write without singing. I've worked on dozens of nibs with great success. Ny suggestion about what's going wrong? 😑
    • Bhakt 12 Oct 5:45
      Any feedback in 100th anniversary Mont Blanc green pens?
    • Glens pens 8 Oct 15:08
      @jordierocks94 i happen to have platinum preppy that has wrote like (bleep) since i bought it my second pen....is that something you would wish to practice on?
    • jordierocks94 4 Oct 6:26
      Hello all - New here. My Art studies have spilled me into the ft pen world where I am happily submerged and floating! I'm looking to repair some cheap pens that are starving for ink yet filled, and eventually get new nibs; and development of repair skills (an even longer learning curve than my art studies - lol). Every hobby needs a hobby, eh ...
    • The_Beginner 18 Sept 23:35
      horse notebooks if you search the title should still appear though it wont show you in your proflie
    • Jayme Brener 16 Sept 22:21
      Hi, guys. I wonder if somebody knows who manufactured the Coro fountain pens.
    • TheHorseNotebooks 16 Sept 13:11
      Hello, it's been ages for me since I was here last time. I had a post (http://www.fountainpennetwork...-notebooks/?view=getnewpost) but I see that it is no longer accessible. Is there anyway to retrieve that one?
    • Refujio Rodriguez 16 Sept 5:39
      I have a match stick simplomatic with a weidlich nib. Does anyone know anything about this pen?
    • The_Beginner 15 Sept 16:11
      dusty yes, glen welcome
    • Glens pens 11 Sept 1:22
      Hello, Im new to FPN I'm so happy to find other foutain penattics. collecting almost one year ,thought I would say hello to everyone.
    • DustyBin 8 Sept 14:34
      I haven't been here for ages... do I take it that private sales are no longer allowed? Also used to be a great place to sell and buy some great pens
    • Sailor Kenshin 1 Sept 12:37
      Lol…
    • JungleJim 1 Sept 1:55
      Perhaps it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times to get that person to appear, though with @Sailor Kenshin you only have to say it twice?
    • Sailor Kenshin 31 Aug 21:06
      ?
    • Duffy 29 Aug 19:31
      @Sailor Kenshin @Sailor Kenshin
    • Seney724 26 Aug 22:07
    • Diablo 26 Aug 22:05
      Thank you so much, Seney724. I really appreciate your help!
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:43
      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
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