Rohrer & Klingner Verdigris

[mhphoto]

I was super excited about getting this ink to try out. When I first began writing with it I was immediately disappointed with the color. True verdigris is a bright blue-tinted green (perfect example: The Statue of Liberty). This ink goes onto the paper a dark yet deeply striking green, but quickly dries into a dull, lifeless dark blue with a slight cyan tinge. I wrote the review at 2:00 AM lit by only my 0.2 lumen 4Sevens flashlight, but I'd already been writing with the ink quite a bit the day before. So I wrote the review with disappointment on my tongue.

 

But there's something you have to know about me. I HATE wasting ink. If I can't find anything that needs to be written with the excess ink in the pen left over from the review, I'll usually just get a piece of notebook paper and draw lines back and forth until the pen's dry. I'd rather have ink scribbled on a piece of paper where I can at least enjoy the tint rather than washing it down the drain. And even when the ink stops flowing, I still suck a bit of water up and see what the ink looks like diluted. So when I diluted Verdigris I was pleasantly surprised.

 

So, as an addendum to my written review, I will say that this ink is gorgeous when diluted. It's soft, heavily shading, and has that dark-edged look I drool over. Undiluted? Yeah, still sucks.

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisMedium.jpg

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisPensUsed.jpg

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisHunt.jpg

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisObservations.jpg

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisComparisons.jpg

 

And since the dried ink is more of a dark blue-green, here are some blues from another review.

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/VerdigrisBlueComparisons.jpg

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisShading.jpg

 

See!? Looks great when diluted!

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisDiluted.jpg

 

Anywho, what are your thoughts on it? I wish I had a real "verdigris green".

[Margana]

My sentiments exactly on Verdigris. It almost appears black though a dry-writing pen might bring out the color better.

 

None of my inks hit the color of verdigris just right so your diluted version might be as close as it gets. Noodler's Blue Nose Bear is in the right range but it has issues, especially a tendency to feather. Everything else I own is either too blue or too green. Hopefully, someone else has found just the right ink. That color is one I would love to have in my collection.

[reval]

I already like Verdigris in my dryer writing pens, but I will try diluting!

[The Good Captain]

I love this ink and have consigned my Pelikan M420 solely for its use. I don't like black ink and the Verdigris looks right, somehow, coming out of a black and silver pen.

This is undiluted, by the way but not from the 420.

[watch_art]

Looks like a blue black to me...

[Ghost Plane]

I love this ink in my bigger nibs. Wonderful wet behavior and I like the color when it dries. Good business ink.

[brunico]

Lovely samples, thank you!

 

It's a distinguished colour, but inexpensive enough in Europe not to have any qualms about mixing it to make it bluer or greener. It will feather noticeably on some cheap copy paper.

 

And if you really want to use up all the ink you've bought, there's not much to beat a Pilot Parallel 6mm!

[terminal]

I love this ink in my bigger nibs. Wonderful wet behavior and I like the color when it dries. Good business ink.

+1

 

I mean, I agree that it's not living up to the definition of "Verdigris" but I don't think that makes it a bad ink exactly. It's really NOT a blue-black. It's like a teal-black and it really is a nice tradeoff for business. Very well behaved, as yo usay.

[coyotewhisper]

Great review of this ink. I'm a big fan of Rohrer and Klinger inks, personally I like them because the inks are more vintage like in colors.

[PDW]

 

See!? Looks great when diluted!

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisDiluted.jpg

 

 

What proportions of ink to water produced this wonderful shading?

Edited June 29, 2012 by PDW

[BobR]

I've used this ink for years, and have noticed that the color produced varies quite a bit, depending on the pen. Generalizing, I think it looks best in a broader, wet nib. But the performance is excellent in all.

[JimB]

 

See!? Looks great when diluted!

 

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisDiluted.jpg

 

 

What proportions of ink to water produced this wonderful shading?

+1 -- bumped up for a response -- What ratio for the dilution? I'd like to try it out!

[mhphoto]

Sorry, I wish I could give you a definitive ratio for the diluted sample, but what I did was write until the pen was dry, then suck up about two drops worth of water into the pen. That mixed with the ink that was left and created the beautiful diluted sample. Shouldn't be too hard to replicate though.

[dizzymizzy]

I agree with your thoughts completely. I own this ink and it is another let down for me.

 

HOWEVER

 

If anyone has a dilution recipe, please share.

[lapis]

I have not yet tossed in any reply since I was surprised to see how "blue-black" this ink looks on my monitor. I had already tried it out (years ago) but found it to be more of a grayish teal. That was of course with other nibs, ranging only up to B an BB. What I see on my monitor looks more like the R&K LE I just reviewed, but a hint redder! Now that I have a 1.5 mm nib, my ink on my paper looks more like your ink on my monitor. Well to get down to brass tacks, here are a few dilutions using tap water, starting off the easy way, from zero dilution going down to 90%. Paper = Rhodia.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/peli46/Verdigrisdilutions.jpg

 

I hope you find a dilution to suit your tastes!

 

Mike

 

 

[dizzymizzy]

Wow, Mike. Very nice. That is incredibly helpful. Thank you.

[mhphoto]

I have not yet tossed in any reply since I was surprised to see how "blue-black" this ink looks on my monitor. I had already tried it out (years ago) but found it to be more of a grayish teal. That was of course with other nibs, ranging only up to B an BB. What I see on my monitor looks more like the R&K LE I just reviewed, but a hint redder! Now that I have a 1.5 mm nib, my ink on my paper looks more like your ink on my monitor. Well to get down to brass tacks, here are a few dilutions using tap water, starting off the easy way, from zero dilution going down to 90%. Paper = Rhodia.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/peli46/Verdigrisdilutions.jpg

 

I hope you find a dilution to suit your tastes!

 

Mike

 

Wow! Great examples, thanks!

[PDW]

I have not yet tossed in any reply since I was surprised to see how "blue-black" this ink looks on my monitor. I had already tried it out (years ago) but found it to be more of a grayish teal. That was of course with other nibs, ranging only up to B an BB. What I see on my monitor looks more like the R&K LE I just reviewed, but a hint redder! Now that I have a 1.5 mm nib, my ink on my paper looks more like your ink on my monitor. Well to get down to brass tacks, here are a few dilutions using tap water, starting off the easy way, from zero dilution going down to 90%. Paper = Rhodia.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/peli46/Verdigrisdilutions.jpg

 

I hope you find a dilution to suit your tastes!

 

Mike

Wow - great work.

[JimB]

My Verdigris is not as dark as the samples above. Even inking up my new Franklin Christoph Model 02 in solid emerald ( ), the 0.9 CI nib lays down a decidedly greenish-bluish line that does look like a verdigris. Certainly no one would mistake it for a black of any type. It's a great color I will consider for any of my green pens.

[lapis]

Here's a comparison of R&K's Verdigris and their LE Blau-Schwarz...

http://www.fountainp...-and-verdigris/

 

Mike