Rollerball Refill Help

[KiwiTaz]

Could anyone help me identify a rollerball Miesterstuck pen and advise me how I can identify the correct refill.

 

I have recently acquired this pen and ordered some refills from the only MB boutique we have in NZ. They tell me there is only two rollerball refills made for MB, the Classique and the Le Grande.

 

We ruled out the Le Grande so they sent me the Classique.

 

However the refills they sent to me will not fit as they are too large in diameter (only by approx 0.5-0,7mm !). Also, the refills they sent have a threaded shoulder near the point and my original does not.

 

Im sorry but I do not have a photo of the refill but it is printed with the MB brand, the words "Montblanc Rollerball", "Pix", "Made in Germany"

 

I have already sent my refill to the boutique for them to identify and they say they have "never" seen one like it so I have had to send my pen to them today to let their service department look at pen.

 

Any help identifying this refill or any history of this pen would be appreciated, it has a serial number around the top band so I presume it is post 1990.

 

Thank you in advance

Edited July 27, 2011 by KiwiTaz

[osnofian]

 

Sorry to break it to you like this, but your pen is not a genuine Montblanc. Posting pictures of the refill might help as someone might have come across a similar one, but I'm afraid an original refill won't fit.

[KiwiTaz]

 

Sorry to break it to you like this, but your pen is not a genuine Montblanc. Posting pictures of the refill might help as someone might have come across a similar one, but I'm afraid an original refill won't fit.

 

Thank you. I am curious to know what tells you this is not genuine?

[UltraMagnus]

these replicas tend to take standard rollerball refills IIRC, so pilot G2 refills would fit.

[osnofian]

Unfortunately, way too many things... starting from the top:

- Originals don't have a black top like that, the metal continues after the clip ring, just barely touching the star.

- The grooves of the pen are spaced differently and all end at exactly the same place.

- The original pens don't have indentations around the main cap ring.

- The shape of the bottom of the pen is wrong (originals are more rounded).

I'm sure there are other details that I'm not seeing in the pictures.

[mlr8]

This is a fake MB. Sorry!

 

I have a real MB RB with metal cap (gold colour).

 

Some pics, the big one is Le Grand RB

 

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2011 by mlr8

[osnofian]

I have no affiliation with this auction and my point is just to compare the pics.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONTBLANC-Meisterstuck-Solitaire-163-Silver-Stripe-RB-/140497164329

 

P.S. - Also to the list one can add that Montblanc didn't have in it's catalog a fully silver coloured pen with the pinstripe pattern (at least that I know of).

[mlr8]

Unfortunately, way too many things... starting from tw

he top:

- Originals don't have a black top like that, the metal continues after the clip ring, just barely touching the star.

- The grooves of the pen are spaced differently and all end at exactly the same place.

- The original pens don't have indentations around the main cap ring.

- The shape of the bottom of the pen is wrong (originals are more rounded).

I'm sure there are other details that I'm not seeing in the pictures.

 

Very precise description.

[kaissa]

Sorry to break it to you like this, but your pen is not a genuine Montblanc. Posting pictures of the refill might help as someone might have come across a similar one, but I'm afraid an original refill won't fit.

 

http://www.coloradopen.com/product/montblanc-710-refill/all

 

Unfortunately fake MB business is a thriving one.

 

I am not sure if it will fit but try a Pilot G2 refill. You may like the way it writes.

 

Regards,

[KiwiTaz]

Thank you everyone. I appreciate all the advise, information and quick response.

 

Obviously the Montblanc boutique in Auckland will also confirm it as well.

 

I am new to this forum but for the record I dont condone or support in anyway fakes and non genuine copies of any products. It looks like I have been duped here and I am embarrassed to admit it. :embarrassed_smile:

 

I have purchased other "Genuine" Montblanc products which include a Meisterstuck Ballpoint and leather products. Which have all the correct documentation.

 

This pen caught my eye and the rest is history!

 

Ah well, All I can do is contact the seller.

[Pen Nut]

Thank you everyone. I appreciate all the advise, information and quick response.

 

Obviously the Montblanc boutique in Auckland will also confirm it as well.

 

I am new to this forum but for the record I dont condone or support in anyway fakes and non genuine copies of any products. It looks like I have been duped here and I am embarrassed to admit it. :embarrassed_smile:

 

I have purchased other "Genuine" Montblanc products which include a Meisterstuck Ballpoint and leather products. Which have all the correct documentation.

 

This pen caught my eye and the rest is history!

 

Ah well, All I can do is contact the seller.

 

 

No need to feel embarrassed buddy. Its is a minefield and many people fall foul. Sttep learning curve this MB buying thing.

[KiwiTaz]

Thanks again everyone.

As expected the boutique confirmed it as a fake. After everyones replies I contacted the seller and referred him to this thread. He is being really good about it and like me, did not realise it was a fake. He has apologised and will be refunding me in full - could not ask for more.

 

mlr8...thanks for the very clear photos. Hopefully they will help others like me.