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Parker Duofold International Review.

 

This review is of a Parker Duofold International with a Broad Italic nib. I shall compare it with the Centennial to show the size differences and similarities in shape and design. This Duofold is in the Pearl & Black colour scheme, one I think is really attractive.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12642a.jpg

 

What made me get it? Well, I have the Centennial in Pearl and Black and really love the colour and pattern. I did try the Centennial & International in comparison a few years ago, and came to the view that the Centennial was the more comfortable to write with even though the International is closer to the size I prefer. However, in the last year I have been developing a prototype fountain pen to my own design to a shape I find comfortable. Having got to the finalised, comfortable, shape I realised the pen was very similar in size to the Duofold International. Rats, someone had got there before me!

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12651a.jpg

Anyway, having decided that my pen was really comfortable, I was sufficiently convinced that the International was worth buying one. Then it was a matter of waiting for one at an acceptable price.

 

I wanted a new one because I needed to take advantage of the Parker nib exchange system to get a Broad Italic. JML came up trumps on the price (£149.99 + £14 postage), and was able to do the nib exchange too. But not without some difficulty. The current nib pattern is the 'Ace of Spades' 2005 onwards shape, which, according to Parker via JML, is discontinued in the broad italic nib size, and there were none available. So they offered the sole broad italic nib they had as an alternative, in the 1995-2005 two tone arrow pattern. This I accepted, not really caring other than that the pen has the italic nib.

 

That's enough about the background, now on to the pen itself.

 

Packaging & Initial Impressions

The packaging on this pen was the standard packaging, forming a card sleeve over a cardboard shoebox. Inside the shoebox was a solid hinged box with a generally matt finish and a glossy fragment of a Duofold 'Ace of Spades' logo on it. This box, opened to reveal a velvet shelf with three grooves on it, the central one occupied by the pen. In fact, it was a really rather small pen. However, the proportions looked right. The Centennial looks a bit stubby because its girth is greater without significant increase in length.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12652a.jpg

 

On picking up the pen I was surprised at its weight. From its size I was expecting 17-18grams rather than the fairly substantial weight it really is. The pearl and black material is really attractive, having a depth to its pearlescence that is very, very alluring. In florescent light there appears to be a greenish tinge to the material, but that disappears as soon as you are in natural or incandescent light conditions.

 

The date code is Y.III (first quarter 2006), identical to my Centennial, which may explain a surprising similarity in the barrel patterns. No, the patterns are not similar, the black lines are identical between the two pens. That is interesting from a production point of view, but has little further significance (I do wonder how they made it though..). The caps and cap lips are different in their patterning.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12647a.jpg

 

On removing the cap I had a look at the nib that had been so difficult to get.

Ho hum.

It is two tone and sharply stamped. However, it has not been carefully plated, and the silver colouring (Rhodium?) goes outside the arrow pattern. If there was another broad italic available, this pen would be straight on its way back for a replacement, but there isn't, so I'll have to live with it :angry: . To be honest, this nib is more carelessly plated than my Jinhao 1200 reviewed here: http://www.fountainp...showtopic=65339 . Jinhao kept closer to the lines than on this Duofold.

Just remind me, which is the more expensive, and supposedly better quality, pen? I am rather disappointed with this. The arrow below shows where the plating is missing:

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12643b.jpg

 

Dimensions

Length Capped: 131mm (Centennial 136mm)

Length Uncapped: 123mm (Centennial 128mm)

Length Posted: 164mm (Centennial 173mm)

Nib Length: 20mm (Centennial 23mm)

Max Barrel Diameter: 11.5mm (Centennial 13.5mm)

Max Cap Diameter: 13.7mm (Centennial 15.5mm)

Weight: 24g (Centennial 30g)

 

Writing with the Pen

The size is actually very pleasant for writing with. Both the International and Centennial seem just right on different days, depending on mood, so having both is rather nice. The length of the pen is fine unposted for my large hands, and sits in the hand very well. The balance is good whether posted or unposted, and when the collector is full, the pen writes with almost no pressure (more about this later). The cap posts securely and stays put (mostly) when you wave your hand around with it in your paw.

 

The first thing I wrote after getting the pen was a 14 page letter, which gave me a fair bit of experience of the pen. Trial by fire, almost. The c/c had to be re-filled twice to get through the letter - so it will be a relatively expensive pen to keep.

The nib is a nail, very rigid and all writing shocks are transmitted to your hand. There is feedback, in spades. It is a little scratchy, and needs smoothing off like my centennial did (another example of carelessness from Parker, I think).

 

One problem I have come across is rather irritating - and I have already referred to it. The feed does not appear well matched to the nib, and the nib feels starved of ink unless the c/c is wound down to fill the collector fins, and becomes scratchy to write with once it is empty - and at this point the pressure required to make any mark on the paper increases greatly. This is not like the centennial, and may require further work. Once again, if there were another nib available, I'd be sending it straight back to Parker to deal with.

Hmm, I seem to be saying that rather a lot, don't I? Once should be once too often.

It must be said though, I have an identical need to twist the c/c on my Lamy Vista with a 1.5i nib too. I just wish this one didn't have to do it too.

 

The 'Italicisation' is fairly radical, giving a line that's approximately 0.9mm wide by 0.2mm thick, so about 4.5:1 ratio. That's not as extreme as the Centennial BI, which appears on further use to give a line of 1.2mm x 0.2mm at an extreme 6:1 ratio. The line is evenly inked all the way across when the nib has enough ink, or totally missing if the collector is empty. This can be taken as a clue that the collector needs re-filling!

 

Living with the Pen

It feels luxurious, beautifully finished (except the nib) and a quality product. It's a pen that I have welcomed into my rotation and am happy to carry it with me at all times. The clip is very secure for shirt pocket carrying, and the Pearl & Black material is very hard, so doesn't scratch easily.

 

The cap-barrel thread twists off in two turns on a triple start thread. This is an acceptable number of turns, but I wouldn't want any more. The machining of the thread is so good that the thread is polished too. That is - and I speak from the experience of trying to do it myself - difficult, and very nice. The thread of the section into the barrel is a better fit than on the centennial, but not as good as an injection moulded thread (like on the P100).

 

Ink usage may be an issue with the italic nib, especially considering the tiny little volume of the c/c, giving about 5 pages of writing to a fill. Ridiculous.

 

Comparison with the Centennial

The international and Centennial are shown below side by side:

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12644a.jpg

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12648a.jpg

Some days I like a light, slender pen. On those days I have to go for a P61 and/or the International. On other days a fatter pen is the preference, so I go for a P51 and/or the Centennial is OK. The centennial does feel fat & bulky in comparison, but it isn't excessive.

 

The Centennial does look subtly wrong, as if the pen is too short for its girth, while the International has the proportions that I think of as 'right'.

 

The writing from the two BI nibs is shown in comparison below:

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12650a.jpg

The International has Pelikan 4001 Turquoise in it, while the Centennial has Diamine Woodland Green.

The Centennial has a wider nib, and it's more extreme in the ratio between the down and side strokes. Both nibs are equally easy to use though, and I cannot choose between them, I like them both, but not quite as much as my 1.1mm P51 with a cursive italic nib that Oxonian tweaked to write perfectly.

 

Conclusions

All in all, the pen is nice, fairly flashy and absolutely gorgeous.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/richardandtracy/Sdc12643a.jpg

If I could get over the slight problems I have with the nib, I'd be a really happy customer. I can recommend it wholeheartedly despite that.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

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Thanks for the review Richard, and great photo's. I love that design, it's timeless.

 

Disappointing about the lack of care gone into the plating. That seems very unusual in my experience with Parker. I also wonder if there would have been any flow issues with the original nib? I'm a 'user' rather than a 'tinkerer', but I wonder whether the different nib has any impact on the feed. You mentioned that it doesn't fit well..

 

Well I hope you enjoy your pen as it is a very nice looking one.

 

Thanks for the informative review.

 

Lewis

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The feed fits the nib, I just said it wasn't as well matched to the nib as the Centennial feed because it doesn't seem able to cope with the demand from the high ink usage BI nib. It is possible that this nib was the last available because it wasn't up to the usual quality and Parker had put it aside for as long as they were able.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

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Hey buddy,

one little question. How is the nib of Centennial is it less stiff than International or is it same. Please let me know I am also willing to buy this pen :)

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tks. for the review and i had read the one about your centennial.

 

would you mind sharing a few words on your prototype pen design, if i understood correctly.

 

i can imagine you carrying both these pearl and black pens together (though you may prefer not to do so), people will certainly stare admiringly at these twins. oh my! :cloud9:

 

rgds.

 

krishna.

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  On 3/19/2011 at 4:01 AM, arashdeepsinghmann said:

Hey buddy,

one little question. How is the nib of Centennial is it less stiff than International or is it same. ...

Both pens are similarly rigid in their nibs - there is no flex or spring at all.

 

I do occasionally carry both the International & Centennial, but the replacement cost, should I lose them, makes me blanche.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

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Really nice and revealing review! I have this pen and love it. Thankfully the nib is better than you described yours to be so perhaps it's just a one off issue. Thanks for the great work!

Some of my pens.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 3 years later...

Today I pulled out and inked up my Parker Duofold International, identical to yours except I have the stock medium nib. I haven't even picked this pen up for a few years, as the nib writes so very stiffly, and I like my Conway Stewarts much better. But after inking up (with Waterman Florida Blue) and giving it a few runs around the old Rhodia, I find that it writes well, albeit like a nail. I will put it into rotation for a while and see how it goes. The one issue I have (had) with this pen is the black veining pattern is identical on all the pens (both sizes apparently), and like you I wonder how this was achieved. I would have preferred it if they were all a bit different. Mine seems to have plating on the nib that is near to perfect, all the rhodium staying "inside the lines".

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  • 3 weeks later...

I have some centenials and internationals from the 90's, I also have form 5 years ago.

 

I prefer the old ones.

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  • 5 years later...

So here 6 years later, and I took my Duofold out of storage, after having it for sale for several years with no takers (maybe I priced it too high?). I've made a dedicated effort to put this pen into my rotation, even vowing to make it my everday user. And I have succeeded! After managing to get past the stiffness of the nib, I now feel an attachment to this pen. I really love the size; seems perfect for my hand both in weight and length (posted). I have just recently come across an issue with leaking though. The converter, which is a push-in style, seems like it doesn't fit very tight and lately on uncapping, there is ink on the section. Opening it up reveals more ink on the converter, but it doesn't seem overly loose. I've tried cleaning everything, tried storing it nib-up in a pen holder, etc. but nothing seemed to help. I switched over to a cartridge, re-filled with a syringe, and this leaked initially too. More cleaning. Finally I tried applying a bit of silicone sealant around the very top of the cartridge and the threads at the top of the barrel before screwing it back in, and this seems to help for now. It was bothersome enough that I almost gave up on this pen.

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can we please stop necro bumping ten year old threads with dead images?

Selling a boatload of restored, fairly rare, vintage Japanese gold nib pens, click here to see (more added as I finish restoring them)

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  On 1/19/2020 at 7:13 AM, Honeybadgers said:

can we please stop necro bumping ten year old threads with dead images?

I agree with the sentiment, but the images look fine to me!

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  On 1/19/2020 at 7:13 AM, Honeybadgers said:

can we please stop necro bumping ten year old threads with dead images?

Well, the review is very well done, the dead images are attributable to the hated Photobucket

It would be nice if they could be restored, but can we ask this from the OP 9 years later...?

Or should we just forget his review?

I'm reasonably happy reading the nice review without photos, if nothing else.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 9:51 AM, Jamerelbe said:

I agree with the sentiment, but the images look fine to me!

 

Really? are they not blurred and with the photobucket logo all over them?

I'd be happy to know if there is a way to see them again...

 

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Actually I have a few Internationals that I need to bring back into rotation myself... (and take some decent photos of them too)

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  On 1/19/2020 at 2:27 PM, sansenri said:

Well, the review is very well done, the dead images are attributable to the hated Photobucket

It would be nice if they could be restored, but can we ask this from the OP 9 years later...?

Or should we just forget his review?

I'm reasonably happy reading the nice review without photos, if nothing else.

 

 

Really? are they not blurred and with the photobucket logo all over them?

I'd be happy to know if there is a way to see them again...

 

 

Very strange: on my tablet, using Firefox, the images are crisp and clear. Checking it again now on the computer, the blurring and the Photobucket label are there. Wonder why one browsing platform can see the original images, and not the other?

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hmm... odd, we need an IT expert to explain this, must be some kind of code that inhibits showing the photos on the PC that is not active on mobiles...

interesting to know though...(until Photobucket finds out...)

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      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
    • Sailor Kenshin 15 July 17:41
      There must be a couple of places here to share artworks.
    • T.D. Rabbit 15 July 12:45
      Hullo! I really like making ink doodles, and I'd like to share a few. Anywhere on the site I can do so? Thanks in advance!
    • Sailor Kenshin 6 July 17:58
      Pay It Forward.
    • AndWhoDisguisedAs 6 July 16:59
      where would I post wanting to trade bottle of ink straight up?
    • JungleJim 3 July 16:14
      @Bill Wood-- just look at the message below you that was posted by @PAKMAN. He is a moderator here on the forums.
    • Bill Wood 2 July 14:24
      Just checking on a classified section and where we are with that. Many thanks. Bill
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