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Carene with Cursive Italic Nib: Writing Example


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Con asked me if I would scan a sample of handwriting from the cursive italic nib I have on one of my Carenes, and I thought I'd post it here.

 

Paper: Black n' Red notebook. Ink: Private Reserve Midnight Blues

 

The nib was ground by Deb Kinney. Originally, it was a medium nib. I asked Deb to narrow the point a little, which she did. The nib is smooth on papers like Apica CD-15, 6A10 and Rhodia, has more 'feel' on paper like the Black n'Red notebook used in this scan. The Apica papers also show off the shading more than the B'Red paper does. It's crisper than I thought it would. Consequently, this Carene isn't one I go to for everyday writing. Used mostly for journals, letters, cards. The cursive italic makes my handwriting look better than it is. All hail the C-I flourish! :notworthy1:

 

What I know Now: In the last year, I've come to prefer medium nibs over fine nibs. If I were to have this done today, I wouldn't have the nib narrowed. So, I think it's wise to live with any pen for awhile before deciding to have something done to the nib especially if, like I was 2 years ago, you don't have much experience with different types of nibs. Once it's ground, there's no going back. Other than now wishing I hadn't had the point narrowed, I really like using it.

 

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/FallLine_Photos/Carene-cursive-italic.jpg

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Excellent writing! You perhaps meant Deb Kinney. I was just planning to send her one of my Carenes; your post couldn't have been more timely!

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By the way, to me/my tastes, a cursive on the crisper side is much better/preferable than the cursive on the stubbish side.

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Wise advice regarding becoming accustomed to a nib and experiencing it prior to grinding it down to an irreversible size!

 

Also, beautiful ink :thumbup:

-Daniel

 

"Τὰ πάντα ῥεῖ καὶ οὐδὲν μένει." ~Ἡράκλειτος

 

"No one should be embarrassed to make the inquiries necessary to learn." ~Anon

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Ah, thank you for correcting the name. I've edited my post, but can't do much about the writing example. :)

 

I would love to see samples of Carene stub nibs to compare.

 

The nib has a beautiful line, but I wish I'd left it at a medium. It's funny how your tastes in nib widths changes. When I had this nib ground, I wasn't into, or even very much aware, of the shading properties of ink. Medium nibs can show that off so much better than fines. I've come to like the bolder line of mediums, too. Still, I like writing with this pen/nib.

 

Thanks for complementing my writing--the CI definitely helps! :thumbup:

 

Midnight Blues ink: This nib really shows off MBlues. It's the only ink I use in the pen now. :)

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Ah, thank you for correcting the name. I've edited my post, but can't do much about the writing example. :)

 

I would love to see samples of Carene stub nibs to compare.

 

The nib has a beautiful line, but I wish I'd left it at a medium. It's funny how your tastes in nib widths changes. When I had this nib ground, I wasn't into, or even very much aware, of the shading properties of ink. Medium nibs can show that off so much better than fines. I've come to like the bolder line of mediums, too. Still, I like writing with this pen/nib.

 

Thanks for complementing my writing--the CI definitely helps! :thumbup:

 

Midnight Blues ink: This nib really shows off MBlues. It's the only ink I use in the pen now. :)

 

I like you really liked and used Midnight Blues for quite awhile as my go to ink. If you like the shading from it and have pens it shades nicely with, you HAVE to try some DC Supershow Blue. It is unbeleivable (in it's shading). It made me almost forget about Midnight Blues. Not as dark as MB but a beautiful darker blue.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

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....I would love to see samples of Carene stub nibs to compare....

 

 

Here you go:

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/carene_st.jpg

 

 

and, a summary:

 

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/samples-1.jpg

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Is that the Waterman factory stub or a custom grind? If the later, who ground it?

 

Thanks,

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

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Is that the Waterman factory stub or a custom grind?...

 

Factory stub (no post-purchase tweaks). All samples are with factory nibs.

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I like you really liked and used Midnight Blues for quite awhile as my go to ink. If you like the shading from it and have pens it shades nicely with, you HAVE to try some DC Supershow Blue. It is unbeleivable (in it's shading). It made me almost forget about Midnight Blues. Not as dark as MB but a beautiful darker blue.

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL

 

Bruce, I've looked at it and thought that it leaned more toward a purply blue than I like. I like blue-blacks that some gray shading in them. But, from what you tell me, I'm interested in trying DC Supershow. I want to get some sample inks from Pear Tree, and I'll add DC-SSB. Thanks for the recommendation. :)

 

 

 

Here you go:

 

Hey, thanks for the scan of your Carene stub and the comparison scans, too. I've never seen handwritten Sanskrit before--very interesting! The stub is nice--and so is your handwriting. The line width of the factory stub may be too big for my handwriting. A medium stub might be what I'm looking for! :eureka:

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Hey, thanks for the scan of your Carene stub and the comparison scans, too. I've never seen handwritten Sanskrit before--very interesting! The stub is nice--and so is your handwriting. The line width of the factory stub may be too big for my handwriting. A medium stub might be what I'm looking for!

 

Thanks for the compliments. The samples were on ordinary paper; Rhodia or something better may have slightly thinner strokes due to less absorption of the ink. You can get another Carene nib section (JML sells on e-bay; no affliliation, just a happy customer) in Medium and send it to nib masters (Deb, MikeItWork, ...) for a medium stub in future. Stub is smoother, so you can write fast if that's what you are looking for.

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Con asked me if I would scan a sample of handwriting from the cursive italic nib I have on one of my Carenes, and I thought I'd post it here.

 

Paper: Black n' Red notebook. Ink: Private Reserve Midnight Blues

 

The nib was ground by Deb Kinney. Originally, it was a medium nib. I asked Deb to narrow the point a little, which she did. The nib is smooth on papers like Apica CD-15, 6A10 and Rhodia, has more 'feel' on paper like the Black n'Red notebook used in this scan. The Apica papers also show off the shading more than the B'Red paper does. It's crisper than I thought it would. Consequently, this Carene isn't one I go to for everyday writing. Used mostly for journals, letters, cards. The cursive italic makes my handwriting look better than it is. All hail the C-I flourish! :notworthy1:

 

What I know Now: In the last year, I've come to prefer medium nibs over fine nibs. If I were to have this done today, I wouldn't have the nib narrowed. So, I think it's wise to live with any pen for awhile before deciding to have something done to the nib especially if, like I was 2 years ago, you don't have much experience with different types of nibs. Once it's ground, there's no going back. Other than now wishing I hadn't had the point narrowed, I really like using it.

 

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/FallLine_Photos/Carene-cursive-italic.jpg

 

Ooooooo.

 

I'm liking that regrind, Treecat.

 

I can see I'll have to contact Deb soon.

 

Many thanks!

 

(you have a PM, too)

Current daily users: Pilot VP with Diamine Teal, Waterman Phileas M Cursive Italic with Arabian Rose, and a black Reform M CI with Copper Burst

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I also sent one of my Carenes to Deb Kinny for regrinding it from Fine to 0.5mm Cursive Italic. As usual, she did a great job. The pen is still smooth, wet and suitable for fast writing/note-taking. Here are the samples:

 

Before re-grinding (i.e., as original Fine):

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/carene_f.jpg

 

 

After re-grinding to 0.5mm Cursive Italic:

 

 

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/DSC_0021.jpg

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/DSC_0024-1.jpg

 

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/jigesh_patel/DSC_0023-1.jpg

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