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Mind you, I don't own any vintage Conklin Crescent pens. Having obtained a modern Conklin Crescent, I’m intrigued by the original version of the pen. I’ve been very curious about the model numbering system.

 

Reading and searching through FPN gave me incomplete information and so I dug further. I found several Conklin catalogs through PCA, and a smaller number from Bill Acker’s website. All of these catalogs were illuminating and essential tools. My gratitude goes to those collectors who manage to preserve these materials.

 

It took me a long time to ferret out the model number system, and thus I’m sharing it for other geeks who might appreciate this kind of information. Use it only for vintage Conklin Crescent pens.

 

The experts among you reading this please, please, please chime in and kindly correct any misinformation or misinterpretation in this post. I'd appreciate it!

 

Cheers,

Julie

 

In a 1913 Conklin catalog I found "A Key to Our System of Numbering." (On page 32 to be exact.)

 

A Conklin Crescent model number seems to consist of two parts: a nib size and an adornment code. A third part is often found in the form of letters (e.g., "NL") and refers to the style of the holder. This information holds up until around 1920 when model numbers begin to grow and I could not find any further keys to interpret them.

 

Gold pens, filigrees, and pen and pencil sets have a somewhat different numbering system that is not covered here, but presumably the very first number will refer to the nib size.

 

If there is a readable imprint on the pen body, the model number should be there. Numbers may consist of two or three figures. They may or may not be followed by letters. Model numbers look something like these:

 

• 20

• 340NL

• 60

• 60NL

• 42

• 211PNL

• 521

• 40P

 

There were tons of model numbers, and the following numbering system should only be applied to the vintage Crescent pens. In examining Conklin catalogs from 1909 to 1926, the system worked pretty well for deciphering pen models up until around 1920/1921.

 

As stated in the 1913 catalog, "Each figure in the number of a Conklin pen has a meaning," designating the size or style of the nib or body of the pen. Some numbers have letters after a pen number (i.e.. 211PNL). The letters, of course, also have meaning.

 

The 1st Number

The first number represents the size of the nib. The literal size nib, not the point (fine, medium, etc.) of the nib. Conklin nib sizes range from 2 through 8, small to large respectively. Therefore, if the first number of the pen model is "2" you should expect to find a corresponding #2 nib on your pen. If the number on the nib is different then very likely it is not the nib original to the pen.

 

The Last Number

Generally, model numbers will contain 2 or 3 numbers. The last number, whether 2 figures or 3 figures, represents whether or not the pen has gold bands or trim. (In 1913 adornments were referred to as 18K gold filled. Bands or trim are 14K in other years.)

• 0 means the pen has no gold bands or trim.

• 1 means there is a 1/4" band on the cap.

• 2 means there is a 1/2" band on the cap.

• 3 means the cap has a chatelaine, or ring top, tip.

 

The above are the only numbers mentioned in the 1913 catalog.

 

A 1909 catalog reveals additional numbers:

• 6 seems to mean a 3/16" band

• 8 seams to mean a 3/4" band

 

What happened to 4, 5 and 7? I don't know! Here's what I have found:

• 4 shows up in a 1921 catalog but I could not define it.

• 5 shows up in the same catalog and I also could not define it.

Anyone know, for example, what is a 25 or a 75 model?

 

Exceptions to the "last number" rule per Conklin's 1909 catalog include:

• Silver Filigree pens #210 to #610.

• Pens numbered 211 to 611 and 321 to 621

 

The Suffix

A model number might have a letter or two at the end of it. Conklin refers to these letters as "the suffix." The suffix refers to the style of the holder. Known suffixes are:

NL means "Non-Leakable" style.

P means "Pocket" or shorter style.

PNL means a "Pocket Non-Leakable" style.

 

I have often seen respected collectors refer to an "S" suffix. I could not find it in any of the limited number of catalogs available to me. The "S" is believed to refer to the "Slip Cap" style of the cap.

Even though early catalogs showed off the Slip Cap there was not an "S" suffix in mention, so I could not confirm that.

 

S consensus says it means Slip Cap, or slip-on style of the cap.

 

In the 1920 catalog another letter appears:

C means the pen has a clip on the cap. The catalog calls the clip a "Pocket Clip." It seems the "C" was used on the order form to obtain a pen with the Pocket Clip. I don't think the "C" actually shows up on the pen model number itself, but it could show up on a box as a label.

 

Putting It All Together

Sometimes a model number has three figures. That too, has a very specific meaning according to the 1909 catalog. "If a number consists of three figures, such as No. 340 or No. 530, it indicates that the gold pen used is a different size from that usually put in that holder." "Gold pen" means the nib. In the catalog example, translating 340 - a #3 nib in a #4 pen holder. The last figure in 340 is 0, which would mean there is no band or trim on the pen.

 

Taking our list of Conklin Crescent models that appear near the start of this very long post, let's interpret them.

20 = a #2 nib in its regular holder with no band or trim.

340NL = a #3 nib in a #4 holder with no band or trim, and in the "Non-Leakable" style.

60 = #6 nib in its regular holder with no band or trim.

60NL = #6 nib in its regular holder with no band or trim, and in the "Non-Leakable" style.

42 = a #4 nib in its regular holder with a 1/2" band on the cap.

211PNL = #2 nib in a #1 holder with a 1/4" band on the cap, in the "Pocket Non-Leakable" style.

521 = a #5 nib in a #2 holder with a 1/4" band on the cap.

40P = a #4 nib in its regular holder with no adornment, and in the "Pocket" style.

 

The 1909 catalog refers to the absence of a suffix or letters as indication "the holder is of the Regular or Slip Cap style." I've also seen the catalogs refer to "Regular" as the "long" style.

 

Again note the "NL" does not refer to the length of the pen, but to "Non-Leakable." The non-leakable feature of the Crescent refers to an inner cap inside the cap to ensure a leak free pen while carrying it around "in any position."

 

The "NL" designation does not appear in the 1920 or later catalogs that I reviewed. Crescent pens disappear by the 1924 catalog.

 

The early catalogs refer to nibs being available in varying grades of flexibility, and with point sizes “Extra Fine, Fine, Medium, Coarse, Stub and Manifold.” Stubs were furnished in “narrow, medium, broad, extra broad, and left oblique.” I'd never read about "Coarse"" nibs before. Richard Binder offers a definition of a “coarse” nib in his wonderful glossary.

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The largest of the crescent-filler nibs, the Conklin 8 size nib, appeared on a pen called the S8. Note that the "S" is a prefix, not a suffix. The pen had a threaded cap, so the "S" clearly did not indicate slip cap in that instance.

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Hirsch, Cool. Thanks for that.

For my insatiable curiosity do you happen to know the year of the S8 or approximate? I thought I'd seen a photo of it but can't place it.

Cheers,

Julie

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Julie, I don't know about the number 4, but I think the 5 in 25 means that it's a slim version of the 20. Comparable to Waterman’s #52½, it's the same length, but slimmer. The three-digit numbers probably refer to the various sterling and gold-filled filigrees and overlays.

 

If you can get to a pen show, you should talk to Dick Johnson, Dave Glass, and Pete Kirby, all major Conklin collectors. Pete has the following website, so you can correspond with him. http://www.petespenshop.com/

 

You might also want to see Cliff Lawrence's "The Conklin Story" in the Pen Fancier's Magazine, vol. 12, no. 12, Dec 1989, which has lots of ad pictures, and Dick Johnson & Howard Edelstein's two-part article in Pen World, vol. 7, nos. 1 and 2, Sept-Oct and Nov-Dec 1993, which has lots of info on the numbering system.

 

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Thanks for the detailed resource info, George! Awesome! Appreciate all the pointers I can get.

 

David's vintagepens.com referred to the Pen World issues, and I found them and they are on their way to me this week. I will look for the others, too.

 

The 3 digits I've reported as Conklin dictated in their "Key" in their 1913 catalog.

 

Apparently I like numbers. Although not as much as I love pens. :) The photos of the Crescents in the old catalogs are very impressive. Very handsome pens.

 

Best,

Julie

 

Edited to correct myself:

 

In the 1924 catalog there are indeed Crescent pens. I misunderstood what I was seeing, perhaps due to the catalog I have being a facsimile. I'll have to go back through this catalog again.

 

Also: the "C" in the 1924 catalog is clearly used as part of the model number (i.e., "20C") to denote a Clip on a pen. In earlier catalogs, Conklin refers to "C" as specifying a pen with a clip, but model numbers were not displayed with a C suffix.

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  Hirsch said:
The largest of the crescent-filler nibs, the Conklin 8 size nib, appeared on a pen called the S8. Note that the "S" is a prefix, not a suffix. The pen had a threaded cap, so the "S" clearly did not indicate slip cap in that instance.

 

I should note that Conklin nib (and pen) sizing is grossly inconsistent over time. That is to say, a #2 nib from one period of production may be considerably larger than a #3 from another. So while the #8 nib from the S8 is numerically the largest, the #7 nibs as fitted to the later Conklin 75 are actually physically larger.

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Thank you, David!

 

I have a feeling a collection of Conklins is calling me. This seriously threatens my "can only have 20 pens" rule. Jeez, I'm so late to the party when it comes to fountain pens.

 

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  Hirsch said:
The largest of the crescent-filler nibs, the Conklin 8 size nib, appeared on a pen called the S8. Note that the "S" is a prefix, not a suffix. The pen had a threaded cap, so the "S" clearly did not indicate slip cap in that instance.

 

I should note that Conklin nib (and pen) sizing is grossly inconsistent over time. That is to say, a #2 nib from one period of production may be considerably larger than a #3 from another. So while the #8 nib from the S8 is numerically the largest, the #7 nibs as fitted to the later Conklin 75 are actually physically larger.

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Perceptive study of the literature. And you don't have any of the vintage pens?

 

 

  jde said:
A 1909 catalog reveals additional numbers:

• 8 seams to mean a 3/4" band

Minor note - the 8 indicates a band of 3/8"

 

 

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I have often seen respected collectors refer to an "S" suffix.

As noted elsewhere, the S is predominately used as a prefix but there was an S suffix as well. Used late in the lifetime of the crescent filler models, the S indicated Short and replaced the P for Pocket. Why? (shrug).

 

As for the prefixes, the S started around 1903-04. There were also C, B, and M a year or so after that. The M seems to have spanned across different form factors so some look like the 3 digit straightcaps (316, 418, etc) and some look like S model slipcaps.

 

And then there was a G model of which I've seen no information.

 

The earliest pens had neither prefixes nor suffixes, displaying only a number.

 

It should be noted that these models names are catalog names, used by retailers to order the pens from Conklin. They don't necessarily appear on the pens themselves. So a model 32C (a 30 with clip and 1/2" band) would have had the barrel imprint of 30. The catalog name 32C would have been on the price band, which would have been removed by the customer.

 

Below - M51, later 316, early 316

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Thanks, Jeff! I appreciate people detailing the finer, uh, points with me.

 

The thing I appreciate about the numbers is that Conklin intended them to be logical and meaningful, and for the most part they succeeded. I have been trying to sort out what is factual about the numbers as opposed to a kind of body of notions passed around about them. Starting out as a "oh, that's pretty" user/collector, I am trying to educate myself in a deeper way about pens I am drawn to.

 

I finally found the 1917 catalog, and I see the 25 appear there. It's interesting to me that the models range, in this catalog, from 20 - 60 (without the band) that the only "5" appears with 25 (and of course, 252p, and 251p - banded pens). It's somewhat hard to tell, given the nature of the photocopy of the 1917 catalog, but in the renderings of the Pocket Style pens the 25p does appear to be slimmer than the 20p. George (rhr) wrote above that "5" meant a slimmer pen.

 

I've been curious about the Conklin Crescents since I started acquiring FPs, but have been concerned about whether or not a hard rubber pen would be too heavy for my hand. I own one of the modern acrylic Mark Twain Crescents which I enjoy a great deal. Next seek I will receive my first BCHR Conklin Crescent in the mail. It's a 25P model!

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  jde said:
Thanks, Jeff! I appreciate people detailing the finer, uh, points with me.

 

The thing I appreciate about the numbers is that Conklin intended them to be logical and meaningful, and for the most part they succeeded. I have been trying to sort out what is factual about the numbers as opposed to a kind of body of notions passed around about them. Starting out as a "oh, that's pretty" user/collector, I am trying to educate myself in a deeper way about pens I am drawn to.

 

I finally found the 1917 catalog, and I see the 25 appear there. It's interesting to me that the models range, in this catalog, from 20 - 60 (without the band) that the only "5" appears with 25 (and of course, 252p, and 251p - banded pens). It's somewhat hard to tell, given the nature of the photocopy of the 1917 catalog, but in the renderings of the Pocket Style pens the 25p does appear to be slimmer than the 20p. George (rhr) wrote above that "5" meant a slimmer pen.

 

I've been curious about the Conklin Crescents since I started acquiring FPs, but have been concerned about whether or not a hard rubber pen would be too heavy for my hand. I own one of the modern acrylic Mark Twain Crescents which I enjoy a great deal. Next seek I will receive my first BCHR Conklin Crescent in the mail. It's a 25P model!

 

Almost any hard rubber pen will be lighter than a plastic/celluloid or metal version, in most cases much lighter.

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  HLeopold said:
Almost any hard rubber pen will be lighter than a plastic/celluloid or metal version, in most cases much lighter.

 

See - another misinformed thought in my head squashed! :)

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I should note that Conklin nib (and pen) sizing is grossly inconsistent over time. That is to say, a #2 nib from one period of production may be considerably larger than a #3 from another. So while the #8 nib from the S8 is numerically the largest, the #7 nibs as fitted to the later Conklin 75 are actually physically larger.

 

Although I no longer have them, I owned the S8 and 75 simultaneously. The 75 was the larger pen (huge), but the S8 had the larger nib. Both nibs had the correct number, but I have no way of knowing if there was a larger #7 nib than the one that was on my 75 when I had it.

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I've been doing a lot of reading, and as some of you pointed out, the Pen World articles by Dick Johnson & Howard Edelstein were very illuminating about the model numbers and more.

 

At the end of the 2nd of the Johnson/Edelstein articles there is a note from (presumably) the PW editor, "Watch for 'The History of Conklin: The Company' in an upcoming issue." That article seems to have not ever seen the light of day, at least in Pen World.

 

There are some articles I have not been able to find. Two of these are:

* L. Michael Fultz has written an article on "The History of Conklin." The copyright is held by Penbid.com which seems currently (permanently?) inaccessible, and the owner has not returned my email.

* The Dec. 1989, Vol. 12, #12 issue of Pen Fancier's Magazine. That issue contains Cliff Lawrence's "The Conklin Story," which is the expanded version of his Aug. 1981, Vol. 4 No. 8 article, "Conklin - The Pioneer of Self-Fillers." (The latter I do have.)

 

Fultz also wrote an article for Pen World about Toledo pen manufacturing companies, and I cannot for the life of me find where I read about him doing so. If anyone knows which issue this article is in, that would be great info for moi.

 

The Pennant seems like a logical place for Conklin pen history, but haven't ferreted out much there as yet. Anyone know of any relevant issues?

 

If anyone can point me to any copies to beg/borrow/purchase, or of other articles people think would be useful about the original Conklin company and its pens, I'd appreciate hearing about them either in this thread or via PM. The reading list I've gathered thus far is here on my (yes, oh dear) blog.

 

Best,

Julie

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  Hirsch said:
Although I no longer have them, I owned the S8 and 75 simultaneously. The 75 was the larger pen (huge), but the S8 had the larger nib. Both nibs had the correct number, but I have no way of knowing if there was a larger #7 nib than the one that was on my 75 when I had it.

 

Since this is Conklin, I'm not about to say that there aren't any #8 Conklin nibs that are larger, but the last #8 Conklin nib I happened to have was indeed smaller than the several #7 nibs from Conklin 75s than I had around at the time -- though larger than the #7 Conklin nib that was in the S7 I also had then.

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Conklin experts, I have a Crescent Filler with a number imprint that does not seem to fit the schemes described above. Can you help me interpret this?

 

The imprint is P45S. The nib is a Conklin Toledo 4. The crescent itself is not imprinted on one side, which seems to indicate a pre-1918 manufacture date, according to other discussions on FPN (https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/196658-dating-a-conklin-crescent-filler/) When I removed the section, a very old petrified ink sac was more or less intact inside, which would seem to indicate that the crescent and barrel are original to each other. Here's a picture of the pen:

 

fpn_1313325755__conklin_p5s_after_reblackening_small.jpg

 

Based on the above discussion and my other Conklins,

  • the 4 indicates a size 4 pen - this is consistent with the nib imprint
  • the 5 indicates a slim model - it is slimmer than my standard model 40, so this is consistent

 

But the P and S confuse me.

  • In earlier models, the P as a suffix indicates a short, or "pocket" model - but this is a prefix.
  • In later models, an S as a suffix indicates the same thing - a short, or "pocket" model

 

This pen definitely is a short model. It has a screw-on cap, so it is not a "slip cap" version. Nowhere in the discussion above is P mentioned as a prefix.

 

So, the crescent seems to indicate an early pen, while the S suffix seems to indicate a late one, and the P as a prefix is just confusing.

 

Can someone help me unravel this model code?

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I reckon this is a later model C/filler. I have two such pens (although longer in length) which date from the late 1910s, around the time of the First World War. The fact that the pen has a threaded cap & barrel would suggest that it's also of newer manufacture. Based purely on what I can see there, I'd say it's from the mid-late 1910s/early 1920s.

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  On 8/26/2009 at 7:00 PM, jde said:

There are some articles I have not been able to find. Two of these are:

* <strike>L. Michael Fultz has written an article on "The History of Conklin." The copyright is held by Penbid.com which seems currently (permanently?) inaccessible, and the owner has not returned my email.</strike>

This one seems present in internet archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080126091833/http://www.penbid.com/Auction/showarticle.asp?art_id=16

 

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  On 8/20/2012 at 10:19 PM, simp said:
  On 8/26/2009 at 7:00 PM, jde said:

There are some articles I have not been able to find. Two of these are:

* <strike>L. Michael Fultz has written an article on "The History of Conklin." The copyright is held by Penbid.com which seems currently (permanently?) inaccessible, and the owner has not returned my email.</strike>

This one seems present in internet archive:

http://web.archive.o...e.asp?art_id=16

 

Simone

 

Good show, Simone! Thank you for posting that link. Glad to see some of those wonderful Fultz articles turn up on the wayback machine.

 

  On 8/14/2011 at 12:48 PM, BamaPen said:

Can someone help me unravel this model code?

 

Just to say, hope you found an answer of some sort by now. :) It would be really neat, and perhaps helpful, if you would post a close-up of the imprint.

 

The "coding system" was implemented at some point after Conklin was making pens for a bit. And then, the codes work for a time, and then, they, uh, don't. Just sayin' that if you have a pen with an imprint that doesn't fit what I outlined earlier in this thread, your imprint is outside that particular "system" Conklin used, and your pen is not necessarily identifiable in a perfect "P means blah 45 means blahblah and S wraps it up" kind of way. Fortunately there are other ways to try to date your pen, as you already know.

 

The more you know, the less you realize is known about a lot of the early Conklin pens. The internet in and of itself can connect you with some people who know Conklin stuff but not really feed the information to you in the way we'd like. And I've found sometimes on FPN people make stuff up based on wild guesses, and then the stuff gets repeated as gospel. (I have been known to do that myself.) Read, read, read as much "source" material as you can get your hands on.

 

There are some great, informative people who contributed to this thread. For them/for you I'm always grateful!

 

(Even though I don't have a vintage Conklin pen, I love learning about Conklin history...)

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I just took a fresh look at the photo of your pen and noticed it has raised threads. I believe that puts it as one of the early screw cap models. If you have a later CF, you will notice that the threads are flush with the barrel. This corresponds with the single-sided imprint on the crescent and the heart - shaped vent. Is there an arrow on the section? Some of these early ones had threaded sections and the arrow kindly tells one which way to turn (like the one found on some caps). This doesn't help with the prefix-suffix question, but it narrows the time frame for production.

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Very cool, my Conklin Crescent is 20P which corresponds perfectly with the pen- size 2 nib, no cap bands or trim and it's small and pocket sized.

 

This little pen gets a lot of use because it has such a wonderful nib. Its odd looks get a lot of questions.

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      @lantanagal did you do anything to fix that? I get that page every time I try to go to edit my profile...
    • Penguincollector 30 Nov 19:14
      Super excited to go check out the PDX Pen Bazaar today. I volunteered to help set up tables. It should be super fun, followed by Xmas tree shopping. 😁
    • niuben 30 Nov 10:41
      @Nurse Ratchet
    • Nurse Ratchet 30 Nov 2:49
      Newbie here!!! Helloall
    • Emes 25 Nov 23:31
      jew
    • Misfit 9 Nov 2:38
      lantanagal, I’ve only seen that happen when you put someone on the ignore list. I doubt a friend would do that.
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 19:01
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Exact message is: Requested page not available! Dear Visitor of the Fountain Pen Nuthouse The page you are requesting to visit is not available to you. You are not authorised to access the requested page. Regards, The FPN Admin Team November 7, 2024
    • lantanagal 7 Nov 18:59
      UPDATE - FIXED NOW Trying to send a pen friend a reply to a message, keep getting an error message to say I don't have access. Anyone any ideas? (tried logging our and back in to no avail)
    • Dr.R 2 Nov 16:58
      Raina’s
    • fireant 2 Nov 1:36
      Fine-have you had a nibmeister look at it?
    • carlos.q 29 Oct 15:19
      @FineFinerFinest: have you seen this thread? https://www.fountainpennetwor...nging-pelikan-nibs/#comments
    • FineFinerFinest 24 Oct 8:52
      No replies required to my complaints about the Pelikan. A friend came to the rescue with some very magnification equipment - with the images thrown to a latge high res screen. Technology is a wonderful thing. Thanks to Mercian for the reply. I had been using the same paper & ink for sometime when the "singing" started. I have a theory but no proof that nibs get damaged when capping the pen. 👍
    • Mercian 22 Oct 22:28
      @FineFinerFinest: sometimes nib-'singing' can be lessened - or even cured - by changing the ink that one is putting through the pen, or the paper that one is using. N.b. *sometimes*. Good luck
    • Bluetaco 22 Oct 22:04
      howdy
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 5:23
      I'm not expecting any replies to my question about the singing Pelikan nib. It seems, from reading the background, that I am not alone. It's a nice pen. It's such a pity Pelikan can't make decent nibs. I have occasionally met users who tell me how wonderful their Pelikan nib is. I've spent enough money to know that not everyone has this experience. I've worked on nibs occasionally over forty years with great success. This one has me beaten. I won't be buying any more Pelikan pens. 👎
    • FineFinerFinest 21 Oct 4:27
      I've had a Pelikan M805 for a couple of years now and cannot get the nib to write without singing. I've worked on dozens of nibs with great success. Ny suggestion about what's going wrong? 😑
    • Bhakt 12 Oct 5:45
      Any feedback in 100th anniversary Mont Blanc green pens?
    • Glens pens 8 Oct 15:08
      @jordierocks94 i happen to have platinum preppy that has wrote like (bleep) since i bought it my second pen....is that something you would wish to practice on?
    • jordierocks94 4 Oct 6:26
      Hello all - New here. My Art studies have spilled me into the ft pen world where I am happily submerged and floating! I'm looking to repair some cheap pens that are starving for ink yet filled, and eventually get new nibs; and development of repair skills (an even longer learning curve than my art studies - lol). Every hobby needs a hobby, eh ...
    • The_Beginner 18 Sept 23:35
      horse notebooks if you search the title should still appear though it wont show you in your proflie
    • Jayme Brener 16 Sept 22:21
      Hi, guys. I wonder if somebody knows who manufactured the Coro fountain pens.
    • TheHorseNotebooks 16 Sept 13:11
      Hello, it's been ages for me since I was here last time. I had a post (http://www.fountainpennetwork...-notebooks/?view=getnewpost) but I see that it is no longer accessible. Is there anyway to retrieve that one?
    • Refujio Rodriguez 16 Sept 5:39
      I have a match stick simplomatic with a weidlich nib. Does anyone know anything about this pen?
    • The_Beginner 15 Sept 16:11
      dusty yes, glen welcome
    • Glens pens 11 Sept 1:22
      Hello, Im new to FPN I'm so happy to find other foutain penattics. collecting almost one year ,thought I would say hello to everyone.
    • DustyBin 8 Sept 14:34
      I haven't been here for ages... do I take it that private sales are no longer allowed? Also used to be a great place to sell and buy some great pens
    • Sailor Kenshin 1 Sept 12:37
      Lol…
    • JungleJim 1 Sept 1:55
      Perhaps it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times to get that person to appear, though with @Sailor Kenshin you only have to say it twice?
    • Sailor Kenshin 31 Aug 21:06
      ?
    • Duffy 29 Aug 19:31
      @Sailor Kenshin @Sailor Kenshin
    • Seney724 26 Aug 22:07
    • Diablo 26 Aug 22:05
      Thank you so much, Seney724. I really appreciate your help!
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:43
      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
    • Sailor Kenshin 15 July 17:41
      There must be a couple of places here to share artworks.
    • T.D. Rabbit 15 July 12:45
      Hullo! I really like making ink doodles, and I'd like to share a few. Anywhere on the site I can do so? Thanks in advance!
    • Sailor Kenshin 6 July 17:58
      Pay It Forward.
    • AndWhoDisguisedAs 6 July 16:59
      where would I post wanting to trade bottle of ink straight up?
    • JungleJim 3 July 16:14
      @Bill Wood-- just look at the message below you that was posted by @PAKMAN. He is a moderator here on the forums.
    • Bill Wood 2 July 14:24
      Just checking on a classified section and where we are with that. Many thanks. Bill
    • PAKMAN 29 June 1:57
      @inky1 The software for the classified stopped working with the forum. So no we don't have a sales section anymore at FPN
    • inky1 28 June 16:49
      I am not sure which is the classifieds section
    • inky1 28 June 16:46
      IIs there a Fountain Pen Sales board anywhere on here?
    • dave c 25 June 19:01
      Hi. Anybody ever heard about a Royal Puck Pen. Very small but good looking.
    • Eppie_Matts 23 June 19:25
      Thanks! I've just ordered some #6's to experiment with.
    • Al-fresco 21 June 12:11
      @Eppie_Matts Shouldn't be a problem - I've just put a Bock #6 Titanium into a La Grande Bellezza section. Went straight in without any problem.
    • Curiousone11 21 June 4:35
      Any recommendations on anyone who specializes in original pen patents?
    • Eppie_Matts 20 June 1:32
      Hi all - I'm new to experimenting with pens and nibs. Can I put a bock 6 on a Pineider? Thanks!
    • penned in 16 June 17:33
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and was wondering where is the best place to sell a Montblanc ballpoint pen? Are ballpoints allowed here? It's a beautiful pen that deserves a great listing. Thanks.
    • ChrisUrbane 9 June 3:16
      I havent logged in here for a while. I have moved and when I try to change my location on my profile, when I go to save it, it sais 'page not found' and that I do not have authority to change that.
    • Dlj 6 June 20:19
      I am looking for someone who can repair a Waterman Preface ballpoint that won’t stay together
    • Penguincollector 30 May 14:59
      I just noticed that the oppsing team of the game I watched last night had a player named Biro in their lineup. He must be part of Marsell the oily magician’s cadre
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