eagle pencil pen?

[pescador]

 

 

Nice looking hard rubber pen , only markings on slide clip band "Eagle Pencil Company New York" on the other side of the clip"Patent July20 1915.

nib is marked 14k within a diamond and the letter R.

any info?

pen came in this vintage waterman box with the original waterman papers.

Edited April 30, 2009 by pescador

[Breck]

The Eagle Pencil Company produced high-quality woodcase pencils in and around New York City for several decades inclusive of 1915. This is speculative, but I'd guess that the pen you have was made by Waterman (also in NY at the same time) for Eagle and stamped as company property, not unlike the "Bell Systems Property" Esterbrooks out there.

 

Is the clip band a removable type? That could cloud the history even more.

[Johnny Appleseed]

The Eagle Pencil Company produced high-quality woodcase pencils in and around New York City for several decades inclusive of 1915. This is speculative, but I'd guess that the pen you have was made by Waterman (also in NY at the same time) for Eagle and stamped as company property, not unlike the "Bell Systems Property" Esterbrooks out there.

 

Is the clip band a removable type? That could cloud the history even more.

 

No - that is not a Waterman at all.

 

Eagle was also in the penmaking business for quite a long time, only getting out of it later in the depression era, when they returned to their core pencil business as part of the general business contraction of the time.

 

I don't have time to pull the links, but Eagle started out in the pencil business sometime in the mid-late 1800s (1860s seems to stick in my mind). They made pen-holders, mechanical pencils and combination pencil-penholders in the late 1800s, and started making fountain pens in the very late 1800s or early 1900s. They were most known for making one of the first cartridge pens, using glass ink-cartridges that screwed into the back of the section, but they also made traditional ED and later lever-filled fountain pens in HR, as well as all-metal coin fillers and lever fillers, and probably the first commercially produced fountain-pen/pencil combination. They tended to stick to a 2nd tier market - there are some gold-banded eagles out there, but mostly they were on the lower end. Later on, they produced 2nd tier celluloid pens.

 

Here are some Eagles from the 1913 Sears catalog - note the pen-pencil combo at the top, and the "Flash" pen on the side - a unique Eagle twist-cam filler.

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/laridae/Sears-Spring1913.jpg

 

I would probably guess the origina poster's pen was a 1920s model, based on the lever-filler and the styling. However, that is not a nib that I usually associate with Eagle - they usually used a nib that had 14K in a shield logo, not a diamond - but I am not an Eagle collector really, so I don't know for certain.

 

John

Edited May 1, 2009 by Johnny Appleseed

[Breck]

Cool, thanks John. I never knew Eagle made pens at all.

 

Learn something new around here everyday if you're not careful.

[Univer]

Hi,

 

And a quick footnote for anyone new to Eagle pens: those later celluloid Eagle products were also sold under the brand name "Epenco." Not great quality, but some nice plastic patterns (and occasionally a nice nib as well).

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

[pescador]

Great information, Thank you all!

still some questions.

[*]The "R" on the nib

[*]yes thiS clip is movable but appears to be in original position, Did Eagle pencil co. make clips?

Edited May 2, 2009 by pescador

[EventHorizon]

Hi,

 

And a quick footnote for anyone new to Eagle pens: those later celluloid Eagle products were also sold under the brand name "Epenco." Not great quality, but some nice plastic patterns (and occasionally a nice nib as well).

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

 

I have a couple under the Epenco name and will agree!!

 

[ToasterPastry]

I came across an "Eagle Pencil Company" fitted with a nice "Warranted" nib. The celluloid was butt-ugly gray. I'm transplanting the nib into a Pioneer, another third tier pen, that had a steel nib, but great celluloid.

[Buzz J]

Here's a couple Eagles:

 

Flash on top & combination on bottom. This combo was used as a marketing piece.

 

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/BuzzJ/662f.jpg

 

Eagle's nibs sported this nifty emblem:

 

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/BuzzJ/389d.jpg

[sztainbok]

Here's a couple Eagles:

 

Flash on top & combination on bottom. This combo was used as a marketing piece.

 

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/BuzzJ/662f.jpg

 

Eagle's nibs sported this nifty emblem:

 

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/BuzzJ/389d.jpg

How does the combo pen filling system work?

[Pickwick]

An Eagle coin filler I recently restored. I understand this pen was made during the first two decades of the 20th century. The company modified it to a lever filler. The nib on this pen was badly warn so I put in a Waterman.

[sztainbok]

An Eagle coin filler I recently restored. I understand this pen was made during the first two decades of the 20th century. The company modified it to a lever filler. The nib on this pen was badly warn so I put in a Waterman.

 

I was refering to the pen-pencil combination that is marked Snowdrift. Is it also a con filler?