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Hello everyone,

I have recently found a MontBlanc Meisterstuck fountain pen in our house, which I think was given to my father 15 years ago by a university in Germany. Checking with numerous guides on the internet, most seems correct, however there are a couple of things I don't know.
Firstly the feed, it is plastic with two VERTICAL channel, shown in a picture down below. Every Meisterstuck that I have looked at on the internet have horizontal comb-like channel, which concerns me a lot.

Second is the Clip. I have read that only Meisterstuck made after 1997 have the word Pix engraved under the clip, but mine doesn't and it isn't that old. Again this concerns me.

 

Thank you for all your help, I would really like to be a part of this wonderful fountain pen community.

 

Pictures below:

Outer cardboard box

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Inner box

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Gold Logo

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Notice the gold trim of the box

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Inside of the box

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The pen itself

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The band, written "MEISTERSTUCK - MONTBLANC"

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The ring of the clip, written "MK101758 GERMANY METAL2"

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The star, it is seamless from feeling

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The tri-color tip. The nib is in silver

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Written "4810 M 18K MONTBLANC 750"

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The main cause of the concern. Notice that the feed channel is two vertical groove.

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The converter exposed

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Thanks for all your help :lol:

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It's a Mb Meisterstuck 144 FP and it looks authentic to me. Feeds used to look like that on the 144. The nib isn't silver. It's 18K gold and partly rhodium plated on top of the gold to make the silver coloured part.

 

These earlier pens used to have a monotone nib, but this is 2-tone. It may have been replaced as it's unusual to find an 18carat gold nib on a 144.

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Its a Montblanc 144, which means its probably before 1997. The feed doesn't have the grooves because it is old style. What type of converter is it? Is it screw in or push in?

 

Also, the nib is gold. For some reason, your's is 18K, its usually 14K, but this is not unheard of.

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Comparing this one to my MB's: This one is authentic.

The two vertical groves on the feed channel is new for me. Never seen it on this 144-type.

Maybe it has been replaced once? Is that possible.

The Nib is an 18 carat gold with rhodium plating.

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Yay :lol:
Thanks guys. I feel like a whole mountain have been lifted. As to the question, the converter is an screw-in.

However, writing this it doesn't feel very smooth, a bit like it is scratching the paper, perhaps the nib in out of alignment?

Is it possible to grind the nib down? The line is just to thick for my liking.

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That all looks authentic. It looks like that may be a newer converter on an older pen. The nib appears to be a Medium and could possibly be out of alignment. Yes a nibmeister can grind the nib to any way you'd like it. I have also seen 144/Classiques with 18k gold nibs before. I'm not sure if this is the ebonite feed but I believe it may be what some call the "ski slope feed."

Also, the Pix trademark was not commonly used on some older vintage pens and isn't even present on many pens being made today. People and counterfeiters think it's always there to prove authenticity but Montblanc really knows where and when it should or shouldn't be there to prove authenticity. If Pix IS there when it really shouldn't be, then there may be a problem haha.

I keep thinking about selling some of my pens but all that happens is I keep acquiring more!

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Also, the Pix trademark was not commonly used on some older vintage pens and isn't even present on many pens being made today. People and counterfeiters think it's always there to prove authenticity but Montblanc really knows where and when it should or shouldn't be there to prove authenticity. If Pix IS there when it really shouldn't be, then there may be a problem haha.

 

What's Pix?

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First off...

:W2FPN:

 

Yay :lol:
Thanks guys. I feel like a whole mountain have been lifted. As to the question, the converter is an screw-in.

However, writing this it doesn't feel very smooth, a bit like it is scratching the paper, perhaps the nib in out of alignment?

Is it possible to grind the nib down? The line is just to thick for my liking.

 

It's quite possible the tines of the nib are out of alignment; you can examine them with a loupe, if you have one available. If they are out of alignment, you can send/bring the pen to (possibly) an MB boutique or (definitely) a nibmeister (person who fixes/adjusts/grinds nibs) and they can fix this for you very easily.

 

FWIW, I would wait on grinding the nib to a new size until you have found a nib size that works for you. If there's an MB boutique close by, stop in and see if you can use the tester 146s to find a nib size/angle that works for you.

 

 

What's Pix?

 

Pix is/was a trademark found on MB pens. It can be found on many - but not all - MB pens in various places; on modern pens, it's usually found somewhere on the cap (e.g., under the clip, on the clip ring, on the cap band, etc.)

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