Pelikan M400 In Yellow?!

[konis]

I found the pics on the net such a Pelikan M 400.

Have you ever produced such Pelikan pen, whether it is a frankenpen?

http://images54.fotosik.pl/277/45ffaef6f3e3d967.jpg

http://images55.fotosik.pl/277/633b9c39e5b9e802.jpg

http://images51.fotosik.pl/276/3108f7d2ce22ce24.jpg

http://images52.fotosik.pl/278/1bb5499720e90bb7.jpg

regards

[2feetplanted]

Don't have info with me - but believe it was called the citrine ...on the road, sorry, but if no one else replies befor tomorrow will get back to you with more info.

[joss]

There was a Pelikan in lemon yellow and it was called "Citroenpers" after the printing company who gave this pen as a present to good customers.

 

I thought that this pen was an M200 with black top jewel on the cap and (correct me if I am wrong) with steel nib. A bit more info can be found here:

http://citroenpers.klak.nl/Vulpennen.php

 

and the pen is listed with a picture here (halfway the page):

http://www.ruettinger-web.de/e-pelikan-modell-m75-m250.html

 

or the 6th pen in this list:

http://www.penboard.de/shop/hlist/PE/MBLI/0

 

But there is a Dutch website showing a Pelikan "Citroenpers" version that is identical to the pen that you show with gold cap crown:

http://www.pw-akkerman.nl/merken/Pelikan/M250_GEEL/citroen_alles.htm

 

So the pen that you show appears to be genuine. It originally came with a book, shown in some of the pictures.

Edited March 9, 2014 by joris

[RMN]

There was the Citroenpers m250 which had a Chrome trim, I believe.

 

 

Our member Sargetalon lists 2 in one of his pictures, I can't discern what trim.

 

See here:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262422-let-me-introduce-you-to-my-flock-pic-heavy/

 

You might contact him

 

 

D.ick

 

Edit: Joris was a bit quicker than I was....^^^

Edited March 9, 2014 by RMN

[sargetalon]

There was never an M400 released in yellow. There were M200's in cream yellow and some of those were upgraded with gold nibs which can lead to some confusion. Two versions of cream yellow M200's were released. The first was for a Dutch publishing company and was a limited run of 1200 pieces. This is called the Citroenpers version. It could be purchased with an accompanying book of artwork. The second was released a few years later for the Galleria Kaufhof as an exclusive. They are both cream yellow pens, with gold plated stainless steel nibs, clear ink windows, and in the post-'97 styling. The only difference that I can discern between the two is that the Citroenpers version has 2 chicks on the cap (1997-2003) and the Galleria Kaufhof has 1 chick (post-2003). The yellow is quite striking and makes for a beautiful pen.

 

 

 

[konis]

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But there is a Dutch website showing a Pelikan "Citroenpers" version that is identical to the pen that you show with gold cap crown:

http://www.pw-akkerman.nl/merken/Pelikan/M250_GEEL/citroen_alles.htm

 

So the pen that you show appears to be genuine. It originally came with a book, shown in some of the pictures.

"Wij hebben de standaard M200-pennen iets aangepast. De standaard M200-pennen worden normaliterklik voor een grotere weergave geleverd met een vergulde (stalen) penpunt. Voor deze fraaie uitgave hebben wij de stalen penpunt vervangen door 14 kt. gouden bi-color penpunt. Bovendien hebben wij de zwarte kunststof clipring vervangen voor een verguld exemplaar. De pen oogt hierdoor nog beter. Deze zonnige pen wordt natuurlijk geleverd in de "speciale verpakking": het boek "25 jaar Citroenpers"

 

Now it all is clear for me.

Thanks.

regards

[PJohnP]

I do recall seeing an advert - perhaps on the Martini site, but I'm not certain at this moment - for a "one-off" yellow pen in the M400 or 600 series. This isn't an unknown concept, as some small manufacture number pens have crept out from time-to-time, always hotly debated if they are truly "authentic". I do very clearly recall seeing both the red and yellow Toledos pop up before they were openly available on the market, so this is not wholly impossible. But if such a pen exists, it's a rare bird indeed, even if not valued in price so highly as this Ocean-Going-Bird.

 

 

John P.

[joss]

"Wij hebben de standaard M200-pennen iets aangepast. De standaard M200-pennen worden normaliterklik voor een grotere weergave geleverd met een vergulde (stalen) penpunt. Voor deze fraaie uitgave hebben wij de stalen penpunt vervangen door 14 kt. gouden bi-color penpunt. Bovendien hebben wij de zwarte kunststof clipring vervangen voor een verguld exemplaar. De pen oogt hierdoor nog beter. Deze zonnige pen wordt natuurlijk geleverd in de "speciale verpakking": het boek "25 jaar Citroenpers"

 

Now it all is clear for me.

Thanks.

regards

 

Well, the idea was to guide you to a picture of a similar pen that you showed. I did not take care too much about the text but it appears to be quite revealing. I suppose that you understand what it says but for the other interested people I will translate it as it solves the mystery of the "yellow M400".

 

The text is from the pen distributor Akkerman, one of the oldest pen shops of the Netherlands. The M200 Citroenpers was available from Akkerman (sold out now) and the text says the following:

"We have adapted the standard M200 pens. The standard M200 pens are normally delivered with a gold plated steel nib. For this elegant series, we have exchanged the steel nib by a 14 kt bi-color nib. In addition, we have exchanged the black clip jewel by a gold plated one. As a result, the pen looks even better. This "sunny" pen is obviously offered as a "special delivery" with the book "25 years Citroenpers".

 

That says it all: the yellow pen that you show is indeed not an M400 but a pimped M200 Citroenpers.

Edited March 9, 2014 by joris

[hulya]

The pen in the picture is a Pelikan M200 Citroenpers, but the original gold-plated steel nib has been replaced with what looks to me like an old logo-style 14K nib on a modern feed with parallel fins. (Someone who knows more about Pelikan history than I do can perhaps clarify whether such a nib was ever manufactured by Pelikan, or whether it's a combination of an old nib and modern feed.)

 

I have a Pelikan Citroenpers with two chicks. I purchased it new in 2008 without the book for 50 Euros, plus 5 Euros for shipping. It's a beautiful pen. Oh, for the good old days of inexpensive Pelikans!

 

There are reviews and discussions of the pen here on FPN, which you can find by searching for "citroenpers".

Edited March 9, 2014 by hulya

[liapuyat]

I have the Galleria Kaufhof yellow M200, which came with the standard M200 gold plated steel nib, and had a one-chick cap. It went on sale for about 39 euros in 2009.

[twdpens]

The pen in the picture is a Pelikan M200 Citroenpers, but the original gold-plated steel nib has been replaced with what looks to me like an old logo-style 14K nib on a modern feed with parallel fins. (Someone who knows more about Pelikan history than I do can perhaps clarify whether such a nib was ever manufactured by Pelikan, or whether it's a combination of an old nib and modern feed.)

 

The nib is from an older style M400 (pre-'97) or a M250. This nib is 14k gold but without the rhodium decoration that the current M400 nibs have.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

[Bo Bo Olson]

Sigh, I didn't buy it at Kaufhaus...didn't know how good a 200's nib was and had a '90's 400.

Been 'looking' for a yellow pen ever since.

That's what being a gold nib snob will do for you....I was rather 'noobie'.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Bo Bo Olson

[hulya]

 

The nib is from an older style M400 (pre-'97) or a M250. This nib is 14k gold but without the rhodium decoration that the current M400 nibs have.

 

Interesting. In my M250, the diagonal lines don't meet at the center. I just checked the Pelikan book. The nib in the picture looks exactly like the Pelikan 400 nib made between 1954 and 1965.

[twdpens]

 

Interesting. In my M250, the diagonal lines don't meet at the center. I just checked the Pelikan book. The nib in the picture looks exactly like the Pelikan 400 nib made between 1954 and 1965.

Yes, you're quite right. I failed to spot that so apologies for my mistake. The logo is the same as later plain 14k gold Pelikan nibs but the difference is the lines. I don't know (yet) when the change was made to lines that don't meet in the centre but I suspect you are right when you state that the nib and feed are not from the same period of manufacture.

 

Martin