Please Help Me Identify These Waterman Pens

January 9, 2014

Hi everyone, I'm trying to identify two of my mom's pens, and my searching has brought me here, any help identifying these would be awesome!

Pen 1 - No box or anything else with it, looks like it at one point had a pocket clip on it but that is no longer there.

http://i.imgur.com/ixtcjG6.jpg

Pen 2 - Has lavender box and some documentation but I couldn't find a model or anything in the little booklet

http://i.imgur.com/nosI5sy.jpg

Really appreciate any help, if any different angle of the pen would help identify it let me know and I'll take a pic.

Thank you!

January 9, 2014

Bottom is Phileas. For top. look for numbers in the base of the body and on nib.

January 9, 2014

Bottom is Phileas. For top. look for numbers in the base of the body and on nib.

Thank you.

When I look on the nib there doesn't appear to be any number but on the bottom it says 12, but when I search for that the pens that come up don't really look anything like this one.

Thanks again!

January 9, 2014

If I see correctly, the silver overlay pen appears to have a wrong nib, Parker? Anyway the pen is a Waterman 12 with silver overlay, that I believe would be called 412, see here http://www.vintagepens.com/FAQhistory/waterman_numbering.shtml

January 9, 2014

If I see correctly, the silver overlay pen appears to have a wrong nib, Parker? Anyway the pen is a Waterman 12 with silver overlay, that I believe would be called 412, see here http://www.vintagepens.com/FAQhistory/waterman_numbering.shtml

As I look closer at it, yeah it definitely says Parker on it, if I were to sell it would it be worthwhile to get a replacement nib? I assume it devalues the pen a lot to have a different nib on it. I apologize for the silly questions I am not too knowledgeable on pens, my mother collected them and I'm clearing out our storage unit after she passed and came across her collection and was just trying to educate myself on it a bit!

Thank you both I appreciate it!

January 9, 2014

It would be relatively easy to source a proper Waterman number 2 nib. The pen appears in fair conditions, some oxidation to the hard rubber, the brownish color. Are you sure it is missing the clip? I would assume that the pen in those conditions with correct nib would fetch $200-$300 or so.

January 9, 2014

It would be relatively easy to source a proper Waterman number 2 nib. The pen appears in fair conditions, some oxidation to the hard rubber, the brownish color. Are you sure it is missing the clip? I would assume that the pen in those conditions with correct nib would fetch $200-$300 or so.

I believe so yes, I can see a little hole on the cap where I assumed a clip would be. What would be the best route to obtain a nib/sell the pen once I find a nib? eBay or is there another market for pens?

Thank you for being so helpful!

January 9, 2014

Could be a breather hole.

I think clips at that time were riveted on with two nails.

D.ick

January 10, 2014

I'm sorry that you've lost your Mum, it must be hard for you. May I suggest, unless money is an issue, that instead of selling her collection, you learn about her pens and use them to build a collection of your own. There are so many useful sites on the net, and FPN is full of follks who are more than ready to help a noobie. If you want to begin writing with fountain pens, the Phileas wouldn't be a bad place to start either, I had one a few years ago and it was a joy to write with. Sold it though, it was too "young" for my collection. Best of luck whatever you decide to do.

January 10, 2014

The Waterman #2 nib is not difficult to source. Most collectors have some in their drawer. You can try here for buying one http://www.fivestarpens.com/waterman_nibs.html no association etc.

You can also try and sell it on eBay as is, with a limit of $180 or so. By the time you buy a nib and you swap it, you might just as be better off selling it as is, if that is your goal. By the way, that Parker nib is nice and worth something as well.

I second that you perhaps should keep the pens and start your own collection.