Help Identifying This Mid 60's Parker Fountain Pen

[PAC 1957]

I'm new to FPN, Althpugh I consider myself an experienced FP collector since the late 60's, I know almost everything of my over 25 pen collection , except fo this one I received as a present by my aunt in 1965, when I was 8 years old. My parents considered it to delicate for a kid, so I started using only in high school in the early 70's. However, I never figured out which Parker model this pen is. I post a photo, it has a 14 carat gold M nib, the cap is double gold plated and it's "Made in France". That's all I know. The pen is quite small and thin according to current standards.It seems to be one of the many similar models Parker produced in the 60's in different sizes with a non removable pump converter( engraved is the warning to press the punp at least 5 times to ensure full filling....

Here I need some of Your expertise, especially from the "Parker specialists" of FPN.

Can anyone help me, maybe providing some further info, model no, etc,..

Thankyou very much for Your attention.

best

piero

[PAC 1957]

2P.S: I haven't used this pen for decades, today I inked it with Stipula "Terre di Siena" (medium reddish brown) which works quite well with this Parker

 

best

piero

[paultyler_82]

Hopefully the Parker experts will chime in soon. Given my non-experience, I'm puzzled, all the pens that the body and nib remind me of have a different cap and all the pens that the cap reminds me of have hooded nibs. Hope you find your answer!

[PAC 1957]

That's exactly my same problem: in particular, if You look at it with its cap on, You would expect a hooded nib (like the 51 or 61) which was very popular in the 60's (for example also the 50/60's original Aurora 88 had a hooded nib , unlike the "new" 90's model. Hopefully the Parker experts will help......

 

Best

Piero

[Uncle Red]

It looks a little like a Parker VS but not quite. Try posting it on the Parker forum.

[PAKMAN]

Good point on moving to the Parker Forum, this may get more exposure there. I'll move it and leave a link here and maybe someone over there will see it and be able to help. Lovely pen by the way!! I was thinking VS myself but not at all sure.

[PAC 1957]

Thankyou all,

Thanks to parkerpen.net expertise , today I was informed it's a Parker Duofold "17" Lady Custom Made in France (like mine) and in the UK around 1967. In General the 17 model, some of which have hooded nibs, unlike this one, were produced in the 1962-1972 decade. Finally after 50 years I got the Information I needed...

Best

Piero

[adamon]

Yes. It's a french Parker 17 Lady Custom.

Here three examples of this pen: two P17 Lady Standard and P17 Lady Custom. French pens had the open nibs, when the english Parker 17 Lady - hooded.

 

 

 

And here the english Parker 17 Lady pens - from left: P17 Lady, P17 Lady Standard (early version), P17 Lady Standard (late version with cap in P45 style), P17 Lady Custom (Standard), P17 Lady Insignia (early version), P17 Lady Insignia (late version)

 

[gvl]

Nice collection, Adamon.

[paultyler_82]

No wonder I couldn't tell... never seen an unhooded 17 before, til now! Thanks for ID'ing this guys, I learned something new along with the OP.

[PAC 1957]

Many thanks to Adamon for providing photos - really nice collection indeed - and further important information. It's very interesting to learn that the French Made17s' have open nibs whereas the UK Made ones have hooded nibs. By the way, my 18 year old daughter is quite interested in this pen.....

 

 

Best

Piero

[richardandtracy]

Thanks Adamon. The nib & section shape is nothing like the open nibbed P17 standard produced in 1962-64 and really looks like a VS, but the cap & barrel are wrong for a VS.

 

Amazing. I never even knew these pens existed.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

Edited October 12, 2012 by richardandtracy
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[algabatz]

Thankyou all,

Thanks to parkerpen.net expertise , today I was informed it's a Parker Duofold "17" Lady Custom Made in France (like mine) and in the UK around 1967. In General the 17 model, some of which have hooded nibs, unlike this one, were produced in the 1962-1972 decade. Finally after 50 years I got the Information I needed...

Best

Piero

 

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[algabatz]

More of Adamons great pens here:

http://parkercollector.com/ukduofold.html

[wangwei]

Thank you adamon!

When I was 8,I used the "hero" fountainpen which was "China's parker". Till I was 28,I got my first gold nib pen.

[Plusfoursmax]

Adamon,

I just bought a 'vintage' Parker of Ebay, and couldn't ID with the help of the Parkerpens.net APIS. I now am absolutely sure I have a P17 Lady Standard (late version with cap in P45 style)!

Is there a way to strip it down and clean it?

I am also glad for my research to show that the 'converter' is not removable!

 

Thanks,

Max

[richardandtracy]

In almost all of the P17's the little plastic (sometimes metal) jewel at the end of the cap acts as a screw to hold the thing together. If you can grip it (easier said than done with some of the variations) you should be able to dismantle the whole cap. The jewel screws into the inner cap and the two of them clamp the clip and barrel body between them.

 

In many varients th jewel is held in with glue, but others use shellac which can be loosened with a bit of hot water (140F max if you don't want to risk shrinking or damaging the polystyrene).

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

[MichieMiche]

Hello,

I recently saw a similar pen on an auction site and requested assistance in identifying the model in another thread (https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/329061-can-anyone-identify-this-parker-pen/?p=3942363). Mitto identified it as a Parker 17 Lady Insignia. I decided to upload the pics to this thread for info purposes.

[mitto]

Yes, I identified it as an open nib FRENCH made Parker 17 Lady Insignia mainly because I could read the '18K' marking on the nib. But you did not answer my question as to whether there was any mention of country of origin on the pen - on the cap or on the filler.

 

Have you checked the inscriptions on the cap and filler?

Edited October 31, 2017 by mitto

[MichieMiche]

Yes, I identified it as an open nib FRENCH made Parker 17 Lady Insignia mainly because I could read the '18K' marking on the nib. But you did not answer my question as to whether there was any mention of country of origin on the pen - on the cap or on the filler.

 

Have you checked the inscriptions on the cap and filler?

Thanks! I do not have the pen and am relying on pics from an auction in order to identify it. I found an identical one in an auction that ended. The pics from that auction were not as good as the pics from the one that I posted. I hope that someone will be able to provide more info on the pen.