Nassau Green?

[karmakoda]

When taking part in the Parker 51 colors survey, I asked about the color of one of my two P51s. I had never thought about it much, it being one of my first pen purchases, and I have been busy since them. When trying to match and ID the color, the only choice was Nassau green. However the pen is an aerometric 51 Special. Apparently these two criteria do not add up. Have a look. I will try to post more pictures when time permits.

Thanks

Greg

 

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/19393561

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/935326/display/19269680

 

Also seen entries in the Parker 51 colors survey Topic

[Carguy]

That's actually what Parker called a Navy Gray - I have one just like it that, depending on the light, looks very green to me. Your second photo, however, looks like a different color altogether - closer to the Nassau Green, but still not quite. The second photo actually looks different from the first, so I sense your confusion. The Nassau Green is more of a deeper sea/sage green - once you see it, you'll know it instantly as no other color in the Parker 51 range looked quite like it.

 

Also, to my knowledge, the Nassau Green was only produced as a Double Jewel 51 Vac - I've never seen one that color that wasn't a DJ Vac.

 

MD

Edited November 29, 2009 by Carguy

[karmakoda]

I looked at the Navy Gray on Richard Binder's reference/profile page on the P51, and I guess I will have to see another side by side to compare. The color sample he shows is very blue/gray. Thanks for your help.

Photos look really nothing like the actual color. Changes through the lens. I keep trying to take more accurate shots.Regards

Greg

[Rick Propas]

Just a quick correction to Carguy's comment on the Nassau, they were also made in vacumatic filler single jewel models.

[karmakoda]

Thanks CarGuy and Rick Propas

I saw quite a variety of Nassau Green P51s when I searched the internet, and I just have not had time to complete that search. When I look at my somewhat illiterate previous reply, I realize how rushed I was. Got some serious deadlines.

Anyway, I am going to take a little time and research this to death and hopefully produce some photos that display the actual colour. (forgive me,sometimes I write "color", others "colour", which, here in Canada, is correct)

I like my P51s, no matter what the colour because I really lucked out on the nibs. Both are dream writers, and I use the green one for drawing too.

I'm grateful for any and all information.

Greg

Here's my next cool pen:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Parker-51,-Nassau-Green,-1945_W0QQitemZ200410885050QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091127?IMSfp=TL091127194001r38925

[PAKMAN]

Check here for some great pics of a Nassau Green 51 that happens to be for sale!

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=133292

[Carguy]

Well hello Perry!

 

And thanks Rick! Shows you what I know....I learn something new every day. I did not know that the Nassau was available in the single jewel model.

 

MD

[karmakoda]

Check here for some great pics of a Nassau Green 51 that happens to be for sale!

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=133292

 

Whoa, very impressive pen, gorgeous colour (curses, Carguy was right..), and now I have a new appreciation for Parker's Navy Gray, considering my P51 cost about $910.00 less than the Nassau Green is listed for.

I now understand what Carguy meant by "once you see it, you'll know it instantly as no other color in the Parker 51 range"

 

 

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to contribute here and humour me. My education continues....Next Question? Do all P51s have that imprint on the barrel where it meets the clutch?

Anybody know of a site that shows the colour range referred to as Parker's Navy Gray?? The Navy Gray on Richard Binder's site does not resemble my pen under any lighting conditions.

Edited November 29, 2009 by karmakoda

[csikora]

Excuse the large image, but I figured I would be able to offer the color ranges of Parker greens/grays. There is a nassau green included in the photo (along with the regular Gray and, I think, navy gray), and a forest green Parker 51. All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

 

http://www.ualberta.ca/~csikora/Greens.jpg

Edited November 29, 2009 by csikora

[diplomat]

Excuse the large image, but I figured I would be able to offer the color ranges of Parker greens/grays. There is a nassau green included in the photo (along with the regular Gray and, I think, navy gray), and a forest green Parker 51. All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

Woa, Jade celluloid!?! Is it a custom made pen?

 

Thanks

[csikora]

Excuse the large image, but I figured I would be able to offer the color ranges of Parker greens/grays. There is a nassau green included in the photo (along with the regular Gray and, I think, navy gray), and a forest green Parker 51. All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

Woa, Jade celluloid!?! Is it a custom made pen?

 

Thanks

 

Its a custom-made 51 vacumatic-filler Torelli...and a fantastic writer, too!

[karmakoda]

from Csiskora

Excuse the large image, but I figured I would be able to offer the color ranges of Parker greens/grays. There is a nassau green included in the photo (along with the regular Gray and, I think, navy gray), and a forest green Parker 51. All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

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Now that's a colour comparison! Just what the doctor ordered.

Yes, the two-toned Nassau Green looks a little sad next to the bespoke P51 custom, although the pen featured in the reply from pakmanpony (cool name, btw) above, is quite delectable. I think the ultra serious collector would see beyond some little faults and appreciate the rarity of the item, its place in pen design history, and find it quite irresistable. It is surprising that Parker stayed with the more "pedestrian" range of colours when so many others were available (that's bound to provoke some responses).

As I said above, I'm even growing to appreciate "Navy Gray" (self-defense move)

 

Is the Torelli pen made completely from scratch? Are there any Parker parts?? Is the nib a Parker?

Thanks Csikora I liked the large picture.

Edited November 29, 2009 by karmakoda

[Glenn-SC]

There is variation in the Gray colors:

 

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/glenn-sc/GreyBarrels.jpg

[csikora]

from Csiskora

Excuse the large image, but I figured I would be able to offer the color ranges of Parker greens/grays. There is a nassau green included in the photo (along with the regular Gray and, I think, navy gray), and a forest green Parker 51. All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

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Now that's a colour comparison! Just what the doctor ordered.

Yes, the two-toned Nassau Green looks a little sad next to the bespoke P51 custom, although the pen featured in the reply from pakmanpony (cool name, btw) above, is quite delectable. I think the ultra serious collector would see beyond some little faults and appreciate the rarity of the item, its place in pen design history, and find it quite irresistable. It is surprising that Parker stayed with the more "pedestrian" range of colours when so many others were available (that's bound to provoke some responses).

As I said above, I'm even growing to appreciate "Navy Gray" (self-defense move)

 

Is the Torelli pen made completely from scratch? Are there any Parker parts?? Is the nib a Parker?

Thanks Csikora I liked the large picture.

 

I'm just not fond of the Nassau Green and prefer basic black for 51s. No self-defence neecessary for your Navy Gray preference...its a nice colour.

 

The Torelli custom has a Parker clutch ring, filling mechanism, collector and nib. Ralph P. makes his own vac fillers, which look /very/ elegant.

[Glenn-SC]

Here is a Prather DuoVac:

The barrel and blind cap are in Duofold Big Red acrylic with custom clutch ring and filler ring.

The rest of the parts are Parker:

 

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/glenn-sc/PratherParkerallopen.jpg

[csikora]

Here is a Prather DuoVac:

The barrel and blind cap are in Duofold Big Red acrylic with custom clutch ring and filler ring.

The rest of the parts are Parker:

 

 

 

Very nice....I especially like the cap.

[karmakoda]

Here is a Prather DuoVac:

The barrel and blind cap are in Duofold Big Red acrylic with custom clutch ring and filler ring.

The rest of the parts are Parker:

 

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/glenn-sc/PratherParkerallopen.jpg

 

That is a beautiful,stunning, pen. I stand corrected, and the variation of gray photo is excellent (all beauties), showing my pen colour in the pen nearest the bottom of the photo. Something, I, alas, could not capture.

I am impressed by the passion felt for this particular pen, the P51. It was a post on GoGirlCafe, a superb blog from the Phillipines, that originally inspired me to seek out a P51, and I will always be grateful. It was the statement, by the author of the blog, that, if she were castaway on a desert island, and could have only one pen with her, she would wish it to be her trusty Parker 51. Well, if that doesn't make you want to stand up and cheer.

When I gave my son a pen, I thought long and hard about what he might appreciate. I had a mint, unused black and Lustraloy Parker 51, and a picture of Admiral Nimitz signing a surrender document ending the War in the Pacific. That did it.

Thanks everyone.

Greg

[diplomat]

All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

Nassau Green ranked second in the Vac colors "desirability" in the survey we had on FPN.

But I agree that in this case desirability is more influenced by the rarity than the beauty itself.

 

 

My P51 is definately a Nassau (sage) green, but it has a filler mech from a 51 Special. Is that possible? The cap looks like stainless with a pearlescent jewel.

 

Karmakoda, do you have a picture of the filling system? Looks like a "Special" filler to me at this point (Navy Gray was between the "Special" colors as for Richard's website). But your cap looks like from a regular 51.

 

Cheers,

[karmakoda]

All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

Nassau Green ranked second in the Vac colors "desirability" in the survey we had on FPN.

But I agree that in this case desirability is more influenced by the rarity than the beauty itself.

 

 

My P51 is definately a Nassau (sage) green, but it has a filler mech from a 51 Special. Is that possible? The cap looks like stainless with a pearlescent jewel.

 

Karmakoda, do you have a picture of the filling system? Looks like a "Special" filler to me at this point (Navy Gray was between the "Special" colors as for Richard's website). But your cap looks like from a regular 51.

 

Cheers,

 

Yes, the pen is a P51 Special, at least the filler system is, made in the US. How can you tell if the cap is from a regular P51?

 

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/935326/display/19278790

 

 

Also wondering which Parker 51s had the fine imprint on the barrel just above the clutch? It usually says "Parker Made in England" or USA.

Thanks!

Edited November 30, 2009 by karmakoda

[diplomat]

All things the same, I think the Nassau Green colour looks pitiful when compared to the Jade celluloid. I don't know why it is a 'high range' colour.

 

Nassau Green ranked second in the Vac colors "desirability" in the survey we had on FPN.

But I agree that in this case desirability is more influenced by the rarity than the beauty itself.

 

 

My P51 is definately a Nassau (sage) green, but it has a filler mech from a 51 Special. Is that possible? The cap looks like stainless with a pearlescent jewel.

 

Karmakoda, do you have a picture of the filling system? Looks like a "Special" filler to me at this point (Navy Gray was between the "Special" colors as for Richard's website). But your cap looks like from a regular 51.

 

Cheers,

 

Yes, the pen is a P51 Special, at least the filler system is, made in the US. How can you tell if the cap is from a regular P51?

 

That's because Specials should have a black plastic jewel and you said the jewel is "pearlescent" which is right for a 51.

 

Cheers,